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[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 hours ago

Brave is just Chromium. Brave is effectively nothing.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 39 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Brave is a piece of shit software, created by a piece of shit person.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago

You have just described most software

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Spezi@feddit.org 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But does Firefox have spoons and knives too?

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago

What about plates and bowls?

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Gotta say, of those two arguments, Brave's is stronger

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, it's easy to have good arguments if you don't really care if you're right or not

[–] plyth@feddit.org 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

More like Sino-Soviet split. The big beef is with Chrome.

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[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They're both fucking terrible, but I choose firefox.

[–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

Fuck off with your both sides bullshit.

One is a company trying to drive itself into the ground and getting stopped left and right by the 12 of us who still believe in the mission.

One is a homophobic crypto-scammer upset at getting kicked out of the other org.

Edit: Speak of the devil, this just showed up in my all: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/36237549

Despite the similarities in phrasing, no idea who that person is.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What about Vivaldi Browser?

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 hours ago

Vivaldi is easily my favorite browser, but unfortunately it's still Chromium-based which is a problem.

[–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

They seem fine as far as I know. I think it isn't that stable in my experience, but I'm not aware of them doing anything bad. The only other browser I've heard of being questionable (besides chrome/edge obviously) is waterfox where it got bought by an ad-oriented company but has supposedly stayed separate from the ad part of the business. Could be a long-term trap, I suppose, but a trap for like 0.01% of the browser market doesn't seem that useful.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

I think the best part about Vivaldi is that it lets you put the tabs to the side, and also has a built-in ad-and-tracker-blocker, despite letting you install ad-block extensions (because Vivaldi is a Chromium browser). Seriously!

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Firefox is a sinking ship and Brave can suck my dick

[–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Give us an alternative to FF and watch me sprint

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

there is none, unfortunately. the best you can do is Firefox forks. i use zen, some people use librewolf, but that doesn't change the fact that Mozilla is getting worse every day. idk how we can get past that other than having another whole ass foundation that invests in a new browser.

[–] Maiznieks@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Tabs on side and adblock is all i care about. I wish firefox management was doing less harm to firefox, but it's still better than chrome.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

That's why I use Vivaldi

Oh and this is my 666th comment here on this Lemmy instance, a lot more than Hexbear. Seriously!

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

From the Brave website:

Beyond this core engine, Brave has built in tons of custom features atop that open-source Chromium core:

  • Built-in ad blocker
  • YouTube ad blocker
  • AI assistant

Yeah, no. I'll stick with LibreWolf.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Yeah. That's where I went. If AI is good enough - it should sell itself. All these browsers have plugins. I see no reason to bake it in unless there's an alteror motive.

Everyone's in a hurry to milk that AI cow... Its a shame about the taste tho.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Not to mention that the CEO of Brave is a homophobic bigot. Good enough for me to boycott as a cis het male.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Everybody sucks but you really should be cheering for Firefox in such a fight. Even now.

[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's strange that they are getting so much hate for an upcoming AI feature.. which will be easily able to be turned off.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago

Because they aren’t trusted. AI anything is not trusted. The concern is they will chip away at the ability to turn it off later like Google is doing with Gemini.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

What search engine is that shit? Hiding full URLs in search results is completely unacceptable

[–] Guillermosaenz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If you want a low-drama setup: Firefox + uBlock Origin + tweak Enhanced Tracking Protection to ‘Strict’. Brave is solid too, but I’ve had a few sites act weird with the defaults.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 4 points 23 hours ago

Solidly mining crypto on your machine, correct.

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 241 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Brave has crypto minded shit built in, and they “protect you” by running their own tracking network, so they can be the exclusive sellers of the data.

Fuck brave.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 17 points 1 day ago

Saved your comment so I can quote it anytime I see somebody try to push Brave on someone else. It's like the Jehovah's Witnesses of browsers Istg.

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[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (25 children)

My main criteria for a browser is not being Chrome or Chromium based.

This leaves my only options being Firefox and it's forks.

Or Microsoft Edge which stifles laughter I'm not gonna do.

Currently on Firefox but might give Librewolf a try.

Edit: I've been told Edge is also Chromium based now, the Firefox ecosystem really is the last holdout huh?

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Edge has been Chromium based since 2020.

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