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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't even care about the meme anymore, the number of people in here that are confusing bending with warping is driving me crazy! Watch some cute animated ducks and a british guy explain bending.

edit: i forgot about einstein-rosen bridges, those ARE described as a wormhole that is created by warping spacetime, but this isn't how the warp engines in the show supposedly work.

double edit: tried to post a cute short video but it doesn't cover warp so here's a significantly more technical series of videos covering warp drive.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

the number of people confusing warp with wormholes is luckily not that high, to my knowledge you are the only one here πŸ˜‚

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I saw at least 6 people describe star trek warp engines as "folding" space before I posted! The warp engines in star trek don't fold spacetime like a wormhole, they contract spacetime in front of the ship and expand it behind the ship. You know, warping it! I'm having trouble getting images to upload with the migration but here.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Gary-Bennett-2/publication/316559378/figure/fig3/AS:883269738459137@1587599324294/Two-dimensional-visualization-of-the-Alcubierre-drive-showing-the-opposing-regions-of.png

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

ok, but why did you link to Wormholes Explained?

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Because I couldn't find anything that explains both folding and warping in a cute 8 minute video, so I posted the one that at least explains folding, figuring people on a Star Trek forum will be smart enough to infer the difference. Here's a nearly 2 hour "intro to black holes" video as well as a collection of videos talking about warp drives if you're interested.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

yeah, i am "smart enough" to infer the difference, otherwise i couldn't ask "why are you showing video that explains the wrong answer to the question discussed". that is heavily counterintuitive πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 7 hours ago

I don't mean for that to come off as rude, I was including you in the intelligent comment! Anyway, it was mostly a silly post in a silly thread about silly science fiction and this is turning into not silly fun anymore so I'ma peace out!

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What if we blow a tyre captain?

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

You just turn off the flat tire simulation program, duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHHYHmf3yx0

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I mean yeah, that's not how Warp works! Impulse sure but not Warp

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

In the Trek universe ships do not accelerate to anywhere near relativistic speeds, they create a "warp bubble" that compresses space behind the ship and expands the space in front of the ship, creating a kind of pressure differential/wave (as in ocean waves) in spacetime itself. The ship doesn't "move" at all at warp. To quote the late, great Cubert Farnsworth: "I understand how the engines work now! It came to me in a dream. The engines don't move the ship at all. The ship stays where it is and the engines move the universe around it!"

That said, I don't think I'd want to be moving at any speed through space without a way to slow myself down.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Canonically the impulse engines at least on the Enterprise D can achieve a top speed of 0.25 c. This means that when they're being "cautious" and moving at one quarter impulse, they're still moving at an insanely high velocity.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Was talkin about that in another comment thread actually. My headcannon is that's why you hardly ever see them use full impulse unless it's a life or death situation. Like you said, even 1/4 impulse is still something like 20 million meters per second.

Edit: If anyone is curious, the fastest man-made object in the universe is currently the Parker Solar Probe, which hit 0.000641C by slingshotting around Venus seven times!

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 53 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

nah, thats movement relative to space time, warp suggests bending said space time in order to, relative to your destination, move faster than light, while essentially staying motionless in spacetime.

In this paradigm inertia is very much not a thing

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 10 points 16 hours ago

This, the power is needed to maintain the subspace bubble, being thrown from said bubble from losing power has been shown to be dangerous. Maybe you just drop out of warp, maybe you drop out too close to something and have no control.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Then explain inertial dampeners buddy! (No seriously, someone please explain to me why they need inertial dampeners at warp. It's been bugging me for literally years.)

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They also use "impulse", which seems to be a very high powered inertial type deal. That should follow the rules we're used to

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Oh yeah absolutely. But I'm almost certain I've heard them complain about the intertial dampeners being maxed out or something when they've been flung to crazy warp factors by one of the various near-omnipotent aliens they seem to encounter at least once a season lol.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

Thank you. I read this thinking β€œyeah this is not simple Newtonian motion”.

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