My Toyota does lane keeping for no subscription at all. I just own the feature.
this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2026
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The “subscription” is that they sell your driving data to your insurance company
Thats literally every car company
Not in Europe.
Or canada.
Yeah, Tesla doesn't do that. Unless you pay the $99 subscription. Actually scrap that, they do it for free too!
So far.
As does my Hyundai. It just works.
Same with my VW
Oh, good. The roads will be a bit safer now.
For now...
“the $99/month for supervised FSD will rise as FSD’s capabilities improve. The massive value jump is when you can be on your phone or sleeping for the entire ride (unsupervised FSD).”
Because paying more for a feature makes the feature work better. How about admitting that not using other ways to see the road was a mistake, Elon?
Wasn't it him that was paying people to drive for you? That it wasn't really auto.
Sounds like Amazon's cashierless stores where 'AI' was watching customers add items to their backpacks / baskets and would charge you for the items when you left the store. Turned out 'AI' in this circumstance meant Actually Indians as Amazon were employing people from india to monitor cameras and allocate items to customers.
for now? this will never happen at the rate he’s going..
Imagine paying $1200 a year to drive a nazi mobile! Lol.
Imagine buying one in the first place
I hope they get sued to fuck.
May this be the straw the breaks the camel's back for Tesla. I want to see its stock fall so badly.
They've all but admitted they are pivoting to AI solutions and are pulling out of the car business. They want the stock market to treat them like a startup and invest heavily. And given the level of memery for even a memestock, it will probably somehow work.
It is divorced from stock value. Might as well be bitcoin, as long as people bet it has to fall, they are there to bet it up.
At least Bitcoin can buy drugs
Isn't lane assistance required by the NHTSA for new vehicles?
I think that's only lane departure warnings? Not active lane following
I hope not. It ('23 Camry rental) almost got me into an accident when merging onto the freeway because it didn't like how the lines were set up.
Someone forgot to use the turn signal...
Nope
Turn signals will disengage the lane assist. Not to give too much crap because it's a rental, but so ya know.
It didn't though
Liessssssss
Nope. It could have been an issue with the car or from a crappy repair (trunk had over spray all over the carpeting from a repaint) but, I clearly remember using my signal.
You'd actually be very hard pressed to find me not using my signal, especially when driving a car I don't own.
So, if someone were to completely disconnect their Tesla from the internet, they could keep autopilot for free?
Idk if they will let you drive without internet. But I'm just guessing.
You could disconnect it in such a way that the car would just think you didn't have reception. A lot of people would get stranded on road trips if they didn't let you drive without internet.
Pihole + Tesla here we go!
The car itself probably will not work without internet, and they can brick it at any time remotely.
I doubt you could cut it off from the internet completely either.
It requires WiFi to download updates. Mine isn't working to connect through my wifi so there is a pending update that wants to download but can't. I Probably won't be looking too hard into that issue now.