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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The problem is that a system like that would benefit a lot of people instead of just the parasitic owner class.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

I think it's moreso that a system like that would ultimately remove the ability for the parasite class to exist. Can't keep everyone tied to your goods and services if they are entirely capable of producing them themselves.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 4 points 4 hours ago

We can't just go around, doing stuff, without our ~~evil~~ divine overlords earning their share! It simply wouldn't be fair to our corporate slave-owners.

[–] HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

I invent utility and design patents, but am on disability and can't afford to patent them open-source. My brain and body won't let me have a regular job, but I could do this all day long if the social infrastructure was there

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 47 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I work at a tiny 10 person non-profit. I am by far the most computer literate person here by an order of magnitude, given my completely wasted software engineering degree. I offered in my downtime at work to fix a bunch of laptops used by our kids in the after school program that were malfunctioning in some way or another.

I was told to stick to my job description by our Executive Director, and that they'd contact an external IT person to deal with it. I'm an Admin Assistant, which TBH kind of means I wear many hats anyway so my job description is very broad...

So here I am, twiddling my thumbs, posting on Lemmy instead.

Its not only giant corporations. Its infected every modern manager/executive brain. And I want to say, the executive director at my work I consider "one of the good executives". At least by comparison.

(My immediate superior I like... less. She'll do something wrong, I'll try to fix it, and I'll get reprimanded for trying to fix it.)

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

one of the good executives

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10 person non-profit.

This sounds incredibly top-heavy for such a small company. The fact that you got micro-managed like that in such a rediculously small outfit is kind of unheard of, frankly. Usually small companies are the exact opposite, where there's one owner/operator, the job titles are largely made-up, and everyone just gets everything done because there's usually not enough expertise-hours to go around to solo every task.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

If i had to guess they contract work out or just redirect that money

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

(My immediate superior I like... less. She'll do something wrong, I'll try to fix it, and I'll get reprimanded for trying to fix it.)

Because it's fucked exactly how she likes it, you trying to unfuck it messes up her whole system ;)

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Most people quite literally think they are above admin assistants.

Imagine the cleaning lady rolls up and fixes the bug you spent hours on in a few seconds.

[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda similar. I work in HVAC-R. There are a ton of times where I'm working on a system where I would love to just spend a few more hours making part of it better and then another few hours streamlining things to make future work on it easier. But we charge $200 per hour so no customer wants me to spend 12 hours making their system perfect; they want me to spend 2 hours and just get it functional. If I didn't have to charge money for my time then not only would every system I touch run like a dream, but they would also be beautiful. As it is people more frequently wind up with duct taped functional travesties and then refuse any follow up work to fix it properly.

[–] pandakhan@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Not that I've had much luck with this, but I have tried to explain to customers/managers that the work is like to do is preventative.

Sure it's "expensive" now, but this reduces potential failures AND reduces maintenance time in the future.

This means we spend $ now, but save $$ later 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of the cure

[–] Hexarei@beehaw.org 3 points 4 hours ago

Unfortunately there's never time to do it right and always time to do it twice

[–] Lydia_K@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

It's crazy how spot on this guy actually is, this wild dude honestly unclogs drains for the love of it: https://youtu.be/95ATNSkGF3Y

[–] wakko@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is more definitional than anything else.

The basic proposition is to do valuable work, as others define value, in exchange for whatever you consider equivalent compensation.

If others don't see value in alternative ways of operating, you can help define it for them. Map any activity to either money made, money saved, or time saved, or maintenance avoided/automated and just watch how the tone of those "stick to your job description" conversations change.

As soon as you learn to put what matters to you in terms that matter to others, this problem is a whole lot easier to solve.

[–] i_ben_fine@midwest.social 2 points 4 hours ago

The guy obsessed with driving a bus or unclogging pipes isn't necessarily the same guy who can defend the value of those tasks. The profit motive redirects a lot of effort away from the task that needs doing to convincing others the task needs doing and for a living wage. But perhaps every imagined economic model will have a Convincing Stage. That could still be streamlined by removing the wage debate and guaranteeing everyone a livelihood.

[–] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 36 points 12 hours ago (27 children)

I'm a big fan of the concept of an universal basic income. Where everyone gets ~1000€ every month from the government. For children, the parents get the money.

And I mean everyone. Every legal resident. Including billionaires.

To finance it I would tax both income and capital gains at ~50%. From the very first € you earn.

The net tax load on most people would not actually change much. But it completely gets rid of situations where if people work more, loose their benefits and end up with less.

1000€ should be just about enough to life a frugal lifestyle. A flat with a partner or flatmate in a small town. Produce to cook a flexitarian diet. A public transport pass and a bicycle. A Samsung Galaxy A17 with an internet plan. And all those other real necessities of life.

If people want luxuries, they will still have to work. Someone still has to produce those consumables after all. But everyone should be able to get all of their basic necessities covered.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Billionaires should not exist and their existence should not be tolerated.

[–] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. If someone has a million times the median wealth, there's something wrong with the system.

But how is that relevant here?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

And I mean everyone. Every legal resident. Including billionaires.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago

Im already taxed like 20% in the US and see nothing for it. May as well do 50 and actualy get something of value for society

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm a big fan of it in concept, but TBH the pandemic made me think twice about it. By that I mean, I watched quite a lot of people get put on furlough, so essentially having their needs met while not having to work, and they went fucking crazy, like screaming fights in the shared hallway over literally nothing at 6am crazy. And it happened really fast too. I think a lot of people are so indoctrinated into the concept of having to show up to work and be told what to do that they kind of short-circuit when left to work it out for themselves.

Not that I think we shouldn't do it necessarily, and I'd hope over time it would even out as people got used to it, but it would need to be done very carefully I think. Even if the math and the politics of it make sense, you also have to sort of account for the irrationality of people as well, which I don't often hear a lot of discussion about.

[–] L7HM77@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Just to put my 2 cents on the plate, it seems like a lot of people are stuck in living arrangements they don't actually want to be in, purely for economic reasons. Lots of personality mismatch in close quarters, work is an escape. UBI would probably break apart lots of lives, but hopefully people will build back better.

In respect to being paid to work on hobbies, a lot of the tech sector was furloughed as well. FOSS projects massively improved, seemingly overnight. I've dabbled with Linux on and off during the 2010s, 2021 felt like the year where everything finally clicked together, now I run Linux and FOSS on everything where possible. I'm not sure how to find data to dispute or support that link tho, might just be me.

[–] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Many people also go crazy like that right after they retire. At least for a while. Structure is important for humans, and many find it difficult to create structure themselves.

But an UBI wouldn't mean that people would suddenly be out of work. They 'd still have to work to keep their lifestyle

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

People need cars to live where I am. There is no public transportation and cycling is far too dangerous, no one even tries. They give up their homes before their cars. Tons of people living on UBI would be living in their cars.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

In a political climate where you could actually implement UBI, you would also be able to implement walkability policies.

Also, e-bikes. E-bikes is where it's at.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah not in rural areas, we need cars.

Now, im all for banning bro trucks and crossovers over 3500 lbs. If you cant get by with a miata or a wagon, you have to get a special license for a bigger vehicle and pay more because youre damaging the road and endangering others 10x more in your 10,000lb f350 diesel.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Rural areas, sure. Suburban and urban where the majority of humans live, no.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah e bikes aren't even allowed on the roads for now. The walkability problem is a matter of the billions and billions of dollars it would take to essentially redo every road in the county. Some zoning changes could help a little but we're generations of work away from being walkable

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

I'm being speculative, right?

In a political climate where you could actually implement UBI, you would also be able to .....

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