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Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

-- Original message:

https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

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[–] goferking0 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wasn't the biggest concern and question why it didn't do an actual error message and is there any notes to say the performance impact having the 4chan filter on?

I'd also argue

To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

Does absolutely nothing to assure people concerned about it being a thing. Like hiding it doesn't do anything about it being a thing

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[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to do the downvote thing but I can't help but upvote this low reputation comment...

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (34 children)

It's as if someone saw a federated social media codebase that enabled the free movement of users and expression online and though, "someone should fix that".

It isnt that the codebase 'forces' moderation decisions - it's that it's undoing the work done in the lemmy codebase to flatten moderation across instances and make them transparent, and introducing arbitrary metrics that can be used to limit the visibility of expression not just on the local instance but across many

You're free to use whatever software on your server you like, but IMO these 'filters' are petty, low-effort workarounds to features in the lemmy codebase that are what make it truely democraticand decentralized, and they degrade the health of the entire federated network by extension.

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Those checkboxes have been there since version 0.9. Ages.

The problem with grabbing small snippets of code is a lot of context is lost. Don't trust anyone who does that. PieFed has 50,000 lines of code so anyone showing you 50 lines is leaving out 99.9% of the picture.

As I said a month ago, anyone with honest questions about how things work who wants to make PieFed better knows where to find us. You don't have to be a coder, we need translators, designers, documentation writers, bug reporters, community evangelists and all that.

[–] goferking0 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Clean, simple code that is easy to understand and contribute to

The problem with grabbing small snippets of code is a lot of context is lost. Don't trust anyone who does that. PieFed has 50,000 lines of code so anyone showing you 50 lines is leaving out 99.9% of the picture.

These 2 statements are incompatible.

Plus depending on the snippets they definitely can tell how things work

[–] wjs018@piefed.wjs018.xyz 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Previous threads about these filters were people complaining about them being hardcoded, completely ignoring that they are completely optional and off by default. It would go something like this:


Look at this awful thing PieFed does!

def do_the_thing():
    # relatively simple code that does the thing

It completely ignored the context that the do_the_thing function is only called if the admin wants to do the thing.

[–] goferking0 7 points 1 week ago

Most of the issues people have brought up have been about why the snippets are even in the code not trying to obscure what the code does.

It completely ignored the context that the do_the_thing function is only called if the admin wants to do the thing

Again it's why is this a thing

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Simple != few lines of code, nothing incompatible about those two statements

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[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The problem with grabbing small snippets of code is a lot of context is lost.

To me, it was obvious that these parts were configurable. There were literally boolean checks for it.

But these features remind me Reddit. And I'm pretty sure most users simply unaware about these things enabled on the .social instance.

[–] lambalicious 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The 99% of the code does not deal with keeping Shadow Profiles on netizens and punishing them (as well as misinforming them about what's going on). This 50something lines, does, and thus is a weighed key on which to judge the subject.

, we need […] community evangelists

What will they be commenting to the public on the CCP-like thing?

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[–] OpheliaAzure@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Is there anyway for users to know which piefed instances have this and the other censorship settings enabled? I was trying to upload an image the other day and kept getting an error and now i realize it was because of the code itself?!

Like why the fuck wouldn't it tell me that image isn't allowed instead of giving me an error

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[–] irelephant@anarchist.nexus 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of people looking at the code were saying these things were hardcoded, even after seeing an if statement which checks if the thing is enabled, which is straight up wrong unless you consider it hard coded because its coded, into the codebase.

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

unless you consider it hard coded because its coded into the codebase

That’s precisely the common definition and understanding of the term.

E: Sorry, I see what you mean in context now. I thought we were talking about a different piefed feature with a similar anti-4chan label that used a set of hardcoded strings to blacklist comments. Yeah, the tesseract image filter isn’t quite what I’d call hardcoded in and of itself.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] goferking0 8 points 1 week ago

That's an excellent question. Thought it was one of the check boxes but that one is just for adjusting reputation if post something from 4chan (ie thinks you're naughty)

[–] hector@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

So what is the lowering reputation part. Are the mods grading your posts and then reducing their visibility?

I was a bit put off with the de federating from some of the other communities, but I had contact with one that I had to admit really needs to be de Federated from. Hexbear, chapotraphouse. Never had s problem with the .ml or whatever.

But I noticed some remove the word cunt too, which is a dealbreaker for me.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The software kind of scores you on a few metrics. Like the ratio of the things you vote up vs down. I'm sure there are others.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, that's it. Reputation (how much you are downvoted) and Attitude (how much you downvote)

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[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Link to the comment for more context: https://lemmy.ml/post/42339089/23619001

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