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This app is still in early alpha but I managed to spin it up yesterday and it seemed to work pretty well during my brief testing.

The github has been pretty active since the release yesterday. Note that this isn't my project, just found the Dev sharing it on reddit yesterday

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[–] taco_shale032@lemmy.ml 78 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Keep in mind that this project is likely vibe coded, or at least seems very AI assisted. (Copilot is mentioned in the .gitignore file and this was built by a single person in about 4 months) A bunch of security issues have already been opened.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

That person homepage, the posts, the avatar... Yeah full vibe on.

[–] magikmw@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

Already fixed but I wouldn't expose it to the internet for now.

[–] Corr@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

It definitely could be. The dev mentioned using AI for the landing page but not the code. I'm not an expert on the matter though

[–] Pixel_Jock_17@piefed.ca 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm so happy to see a few alternatives popping up already and I hope to see them fleshed out well.

As someone who's pretty new to things like FOSS, self hosting, etc. I am hopeful that there will be a release that's more "idiot proof".

I have a few friends who aren't going to spend time trying to learn all the small things needed to set up stuff. Hopefully I'll be able to set up something and just invite them and they just have to make an account in an app type thing to use. Lol

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

As someone who has been advocating for the use of the federated Matrix protocol for a long, long time now, the proliferation of new, competing options actually is frustrating to me. Technically Matrix is actually already fleshed out very well, has several different clients, and even has Thunderbird support so if you're already using Thunderbird you don't even need a separate client.

The beginnings of Matrix go back as far as 2014 so it honest has at this point 12 years of development behind it. I know Matrix has it's issues, but it's by far the most secure combined with being able to communicate with large groups of people via federation. There's definitely slightly more secure options, because they lack federation (and thus don't leak metadata), but I personally am ambivalent about them because some of them have a kind of crypto-bro feel to the companies behind them and I'm skeptical they won't go down a path similar to Discord while Matrix on the other hand has been slowly but surely leveraging itself into a position of secure government communications all over Europe. So, to me, Matrix already has a game plan for staying relevant and staying solvent, while things like SimpleX or Stoat I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop and for the enshittification to begin

Open source bona-fides are great and all, but for a lot of these messengers, I absolutely think not enough discussion is made regarding their financial plans to stay afloat whereas the reality is that while Matrix doesn't exactly have money coming out their ears, they have a slow, steady gameplan that is working out so far.

The whole reason everyone moved to Discord was because it was a centralized place and since Discord needed to pay for it's servers, it had to find a way to finance that, and enshittification naturally happened. I think it would be foolish to pretend that can't happen again with several of the current alternatives.

[–] khorovodoved@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hello from XMPP. Now you understand how we felt.

Exactly, this isn't even a new problem... it just keeps happening.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The whole reason everyone moved to Discord was because it was a centralized place and since Discord needed to pay for it's servers, it had to find a way to finance that, and enshittification naturally happened.

No! Stop perpetuating this "they have bills to pay" nonsense. Discord has more than enough money to run itself and be profitable.

The enshitification happens in services like Discord when shareholders gain control of the product.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-06/chat-platform-discord-is-said-to-file-confidentially-for-ipo

Edit: toned down a word.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Personal opinion, Discord was already enshittifying before they did an IPO, like at least 6 years ago or more. The IPO just gave them an excuse to speed up the process.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I fully agree.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't like Matrix because you can't sort and categorise channels in a server. The most recently messaged in channel is always at the top. That's not the UX I want, I want to be able to put things in places with intentionality.

[–] Kalon@feddit.online 10 points 2 days ago (11 children)

That literally has to be a client option. Pick your favorite client with a receptive team and request sorting as a feature.

Exactly this, that's a client quirk, probably Element in this case.

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Someone just needs to make a discord clone on Matrix, can’t be that hard, right?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Already did, it's called Commet.

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[–] Corr@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

This is the current flow. All the pain seems to be in setting it up. User join/sign on flow is super easy

[–] mrus 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I recommend https://conversejs.org/ or https://github.com/processone/fluux-messenger which are both running on tried-and-tested platforms (XMPP).

[–] DrWorm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Do either of these also support voice channels with screen sharing/streaming?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

(see: A/C chargers, character encoding, instant messaging, etc.)

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

The standard is webrtc.

Multiple clients using it isn't an issue.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How does it compare to stoat?

The initial release was literally 7 HOURS ago so its not really recommendable yet at all. Idk why it keeps getting spammed here today.

Stoat has been around for 5 years and used to be called Revolt until recently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoat_(software)

Neither are e2ee or federated so not particularly future proof or enshittification resistant unless you self host (which most people dont...)

[–] florge@feddit.uk 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Gasp! You take that back!

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Like you have room to talk.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I was about to challenge this, but no lie, your name is awesome.

But I'm biased. I have a cousin in New Jersey with the same name.

[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

Sharkord to replace Discord? Sad. Lame. Possibly worse than Stoat.

Nah you're right, it's definitely better than Stoat, but both are F-tier.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I managed to spin it up yesterday and it seemed to work pretty well during my brief testing.

Can we see? As usual the dev tells us virtually nothing about it.

[–] Corr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Alright, this is pretty damn cool, thanks

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
IP Internet Protocol
TCP Transmission Control Protocol, most often over IP
XMPP Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol ('Jabber') for open instant messaging

2 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 7 acronyms.

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[–] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Everything is written in typescript.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly what changes are being made? I see age verification, but other than that, anything outrageous?

[–] Kalon@feddit.online 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Demanding ID scans from everyone or keyloggers to infer age is outrageous enough.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Since we legislate to the lowest common denominator, I see the internet becoming rather restrictive for people who solicit popular sites.

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