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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I am forced to use Oracle at work. It is, in fact, hot garbage.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What makes it garbage? Compared to postgres

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

Oh, just getting to the interface where I can run SQL is a pain in the ass. It’s hidden behind Oracle’s terrible UI.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago
[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

The name Oracle comes from the codename of a Central Intelligence Agency-funded project Ellison had worked on while formally employed by Ampex.

Nonsense, everyone knows Oracle is an acronym: One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 hours ago

The DoD funded a lot of the early development of relational databases, along with internet protocol. Working for the cia was probably the least of ellisons sins. Really bad company, but solid DB.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 61 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think we all know it actually stands for One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be honest, until now I always thought it was because of Oracles.

[–] ghostahh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Wind gusts are crazy today the way jokes are flying over heads

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hahaha this is cartoonishly evil, surely it can't be true!

Next you'll tell me Ellison invests in creepy life extension projects and gives an insane amount of money to post-fascist politicians!

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago

Don't forget the support for genocide.

[–] xep@discuss.online 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The worst DB in existence, not to defend Oracle, is blockchain.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

y'all wrong, the worst database in existence is wherever I keep my notes. because every time I write notes I forget where the fuck I wrote them.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Isn't it how all the databases work? Or maybe you should just enable cache for yours.

can't cache my notes because I forgot where I put my notebook

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Based on what? It’s top notch for immutability, zero trust, proof of existence, accountability, transparency, uptime, decentralization, network resilience…

[–] chaospatterns@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

What about throughput, latency, schema modeling, query load balancing/routing, confidentiality, regulatory compliance, operational tooling? How easily can I write a CRUD or line of business service using it?

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Confidentiality, regulatory compliance, schema modeling (IDLs?), query load balancing (rpc infra) and operational tooling pretty good in my world now (Solana). Throughout and latency decent now (400ms conf, couple second finality, 4k tps) but obviously the type of system that needs a trustless immutable database has tradeoffs.

How easily can you write a crud system? No clue that’s on you. A line of business service? Why the hell would that need a trustless immutable ledger. You’re barking up the wrong tree. Low level financial systems are pretty much the only thing that benefits. Small niche for proof of existence perhaps. And maybe other immutable use case things.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Blockchain isn't a Database, and the worst one is AS400.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A400 is at least relational.

MongoDB on the other hand...

All data is, or will become, relational.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I am a big SQL fan but not all data has to be relational.

Let’s say I want the GPS coordinates of ten million vehicles every 5 seconds. I have a vehicle id, a timestamp, and coordinates. I do not care if a few writes get lost. Why does this have to be relational?

And perhaps I also record other info that may change from vehicle to vehicle. Perhaps just values that are true if present. DoorOpen, BrakeApplied, LightsOn, LightBarOn, EngineOn, etc. I may only be displaying this data in a UI. I may get different values from every vehicle or even every write. There is no “schema”. I mean, I can have a JSON field or something in my relational table? But this is not exactly relational anymore.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Correct not all data has to be relational but it will always eventually become relational. You will at one point want to pair that vehicle id to a vehicle and then again to something else.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oracle is not the worse DB in existence. They are a worse company than MS, but I'd much rather be talking to Oracle than MSSQL.

(My go-to is PostgreSQL, tho.)

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

MSSQLMS is goat tho

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Had to know Kai was going to show up.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah, that answers the question "when did oracle become so evil?"

[–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

Yeah, from the beginning

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"intelligence" <---> incompetence

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 18 hours ago

I dunno about that. The CIA has at least been competent at undermining leftist movements.

[–] xcaliber47@europe.pub 3 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Hate to be the Devils advocate here, but Oracle is the only one (as far as i know) which provides a FREE usable server. FOREVER. Via OracleCloud

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

And as usual from Oracle, it isn't worth free. You better have a good backup, because they'll shut that shit off on you without warning.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago

Promise free cloud forever. Randomly delete it without recourse once people come to depend on it.

Check: sounds pretty evil.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They like to randomly delete them. It happened to me and a friend.

[–] xcaliber47@europe.pub 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You can start the server again manually right? Because i am about to go for Oracle free forever server ( It is a Analytics server so i dont mind them deleting the entire server sometimes. And me manually starting it back up as soon as they do that. Also we have auto backup I just want a free server

Will it work?

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Unfortunately deleted means deleted. Data gone.

My recommendation is to use it as a reverse proxy to expose services but ultimately host from another device.

It's 1 gb of ram anyway (the free 24 gb of ram arm vps' are scarce and hard to get).

Another tip is that they monitor cpu and ram and are more likely to delete it if is idling. There exist programs on github that do nothing but waste cpu in order to try to keep the oracle vps up.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Until it randomly gets removed without warning

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] xcaliber47@europe.pub 9 points 2 days ago

As far as i know, yes. Forever. Only 1 cloud provider that gives free usable server FOREVER (until they eventually change their policy or something)

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 7 points 2 days ago

Mmm saas is not forever nor are loss leaders.