Is Fluxer US based though?
this post was submitted on 17 Feb 2026
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No, why ask this instead of just looking it up? It's Swedish.
I think Stoat is the better option tbh, no tier pricing models for more features and they don't ask for any info like a birthday etc.
fluxer has those issue plus:
One thing that worries me a little about fluxer is this:
Finally, we can offer commercial licences to companies that want to run Fluxer internally without being bound by the AGPLv3 copyleft terms.
This is enabled via a contributor-friendly CLA, but it doesn’t create a separate “enterprise edition”.
It’s still the same Fluxer software everyone else uses.
- https://blog.fluxer.app/how-i-built-fluxer-a-discord-like-chat-app/
They have a CLA on contributions.
So while today Fluxer is licensed as AGPLv3, tomorrow they can pull the rug and change the license, just like everyone else has been doing.
Stoat is purely open source and donations driven. Just need an email address to sign up and you're good to go.
Best that we invest into an option now that is more decentralized and community based so we don't have another discord situation a few years down the line.
Stoat have ruled out federation. They are also UK based too. Not good long term.
Has fluxer indicated they are considering federation? Also, I don't feel like federation is the only path forward.
Yes they have. It is third in their priority list.
But a centralised system based on a service hosted in the UK?
Interesting, thats definitely a plus for fluxer.
I definitely understand that it being hosted in the UK isn't ideal.
Really fair point, but I think some compromises are necessary to keep the project financially sustainable. Stoat is incomplete, it's not federated and has shady development practices. Also, vc barely works and it's unreliable as heck
they're vc backed? that is offputting.
also whats this about shady dev practices? I haven't heard about that!
I think they mean Voice Chat with VC lol
lol shows where my brain is at haha
Having the pricing model upfront is a good thing. Running these services costs money, and I'd rather know what their plan is now than be surprised in the future.
Idk how the pricing model works down the line when federation is active, but yeah.
Seems like "premium features" only apply to users on the flagship server. If you self-host you get everything.
Yeah that means that he'll be degrading his own income down the line lol but it does give new self-hosters the same tools to collect income which, like it or not, is necessary.
I was hoping for a decentralized version of discord ever since they started requiring phone numbers.