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So basically my thought process is that the people who are in charge of "releasing the files" are actively covering up what's in them. They know all of the rich and powerful people are child sex criminals and murderers and probably cannibals and god knows wtf else

So what does releasing the files accomplish? Everyone already knows what's in them and the people who are supposed to punish those in them are protecting them

Is the thought process that the shit they've yet to release is so fucked up that people en masse would act? I don't see that happening sadly. Not to say I don't want the files released

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[–] Jentu@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Same thing the Panama Papers did

(Christ was that leak really a decade ago?)

[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago

Nothing.

liberals seem to think it will change trump supports minds or something. We're not gonna talk or vote our way out of this.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

By itself, nothing; or even harmful to our movements.

But it is opening a lot of people up to class based critiques and radical demands. Practical application of criticism and demands is the foundation of Marxist political organizing.

The conspiracy theorist believes that once people know the truth, they will rise up. That sentence alone has three distinct idealist abstractions. But contemplation is half of praxis. If people are thinking about changing their conditions they can be motivated to take action. We can't build our movement on the basis of Marxist theory alone, Marxist theory is how we learn to take the nascent revolutionary potential of the working class and develop it on an actual political basis. The Epstein files provides that basis.

Revolutionary strategy is connecting the contents of the files to the rest of the struggle against racism, nationalism, queer and trans phobia; and help people understand these as fundamental class antagonisms created by capitalism.

Teaching people to think is teaching people to act. So the Epstein files alone could actually hurt consciousness. Therefore their release met with inaction from leftists could be disastrous for our movements.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Great perspective, thank you comrade :)

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

probably cost a lot of ink (On a more serious note im sure its gonna radicalize some folks...silver linings and all that)

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Literally nothing.

It's not a reason not to do it, they still should, but it won't do anything.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

I think it's quite rhetorically convenient for radicalizing people, just like CIA admissions are. They generally don't produce spontaneous waves of socialists, but if you make the effort to consider how to leverage this information for a given audience, they can help.

nothing at all would change. there is no limit to the depravity and evil that americans will accept from their leaders

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The whole Epstein files has been one hell of a blackpill, from the unofficial rulings from the law basically being “meh, who cares?” and the American people by and large all thinking Jeffery Epstein is the coolest person ever.

from the unofficial rulings from the law basically being “meh, who cares?”

tbh that was pretty unsurprising

[–] Demifriend@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

?? I’ve never heard anyone say a single positive thing about Epstein, what are you talking about

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Nick Fuentes did, so 4chan, twitter and ifunny have all come out in support of Epstein.

[–] CrookedSerpent@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nick Fuentes just endorsed Epstein to his large audience of impressionable young people. Why is this funny? This just normalizes those horrific crimes.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait people think Jeffrey Epstein is cool?? Maybe I don't talk to anybody but I did not know that

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

A handful of pedos probably do but that's it, the "American people by and large" do not think he's cool, even racist assholes mostly are against the pedo cabal now.

[–] dil@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

There are some folks getting jackets like he had. It's fucked.