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You should know this because one of the reasons Trump's been trying to use to justify this war is that Iran never said they wouldn't pursue nuclear weapons.

You could say the fatwa is just talk but there's a strategic argument for Iran to not get nuclear weapons besides the moral case. Iran doesn't want to get nukes and become a pariah state like North Korea and cut itself off from global trade, they're a Petro state they need trade. At the same time they don't want Israel and the US to be able to bomb them with impunity. So their best strategy is to remain close to building a bomb, that way they can get sanctions relief while being able to dash for a bomb and nuclear deterrence in the case of a war.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Then why are they so hell bent on uranium enrichment?

Yeah, the US is full of shit here and screwed stuff up. And if Israel was my neighbor, I'd want a nuke too.

But that fatwa sure sounds like "having your cake and eating it." If they wanted to be a trade-focused petrol state, they'd let that idea go. But they didn't.

[–] GrantCardone@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

🇱🇧🇸🇾 Iran-backed Hezbollah fired artillery from Lebanon into Syria overnight, with shells landing near Serghaya west of Damascus, Syrian state media reports.

The Syrian army accused Hezbollah of targeting its positions and warned it “will not tolerate any aggression.”

Hezbollah has lost key supply routes since Bashar al-Assad was overthrown in Dec. 2024.

[–] NomNom@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

You should know this because one of the reasons Trump’s been trying to use to justify this war is that Iran never said they wouldn’t pursue nuclear weapons.

Iran doesn’t want to get nukes

You think a religious dude that just gunned down tens of thousands of his own people is honest?

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/ng-interactive/2026/feb/06/rasht-massacre-protests-iran-timeline

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

Iran has repeatedly denied access to International Nuclear Inspectors:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1mg7kx2d45o

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3v6w2qr12o

I don't like Trump. I don't like Netanyahu. I don't like this stupid war.

But this idea that Iran just isn't interested in nukes is a joke. They have been absorbing crippling sanctions to enrich uranium far-above civilian grade.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yes the Ayatollah massacred his own people, but that sadly is the logical move for an authoritarian regime. Building nukes and making the sanctions that cripple the economy which created the unrest permanent is not the best strategic move, as mentioned above. They want to get a deal done, it's just trump / neta yahu will take nothing but complete capitulation.

They're enriching uranium and denying inspectors because the US dropped out of the deal and they're trying to bring them to the table. If the US is going to impose sanctions and put pressure on them they have to put pressure back on the US . Otherwise the US can just sit back and wait for the regime to collapse under the weight of crippling sanctions.

Under the JCPOA Iran never failed an inspection, it wasn't until Trump dropped out of the deal that they stopped allowing them in, and if another deal is reached there's no reason to believe that they'll violate it.

If you look at the iranian regime as rational actors instead of crazy religious fanatics then all this starts to make sense. They can't afford to be crazy religious fanatics, they have to make the best strategic moves because their regime is teetering under the weight of both external and internal pressures. The fact they've managed to survive this long is a testament to their capabilities. This is not to say their regime is good in a moralistic sense, it's not, only that it's good at keeping power.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But it's still religious mumbo jumbo, right?

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, and it's the sort of mumbo jumbo that got 150 schoolgirls killed. Don't get me wrong, normally I'm all for freedom of religion, but if the US ever looks funny at your country, YOU HAVE TO DROP EVERYTHING ELSE AND GET THE NUKE. Sadly, it's the only language they understand.

[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago

If they had a nuke, America wouldn't have fucked with them for the past 40 years

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Basically:

Israel since 1990s: "Iran is weeks away from Nuking us!"

Iran: "We could have Nuked Israel if really wanted"

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hmmh. I've heard the argument before, that they're better off almost having nuclear weapons. But it that really the case? I mean North Korea is kind of an outliar. Lots of other countries have nuclear weapons as well, France, China... and none of them is a pariah. So I'm not sure if that's even true. Usually more weapons is more better. Or so they say.

Edit: But we're arguing logic here. And oftentimes politics isn't as straightforward. I mean I don't think we know the truth anyway. It's completely unclear to me as an average citizen if they were close to nukes, if that's even the biggest issue and reason for this. For all I know everyone could be lying or framing things, including following more than one motive.