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[–] red_sock@lemmy.ml 82 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Are these "fewer work hours" in the room with us?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

I mean the 8 hour work day is relatively recent change, enabled by technology. Unless technology here means digital technology only.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Yes, they're called being unemployed and having no money

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's only for hourly workers. Salaried employees get the opposite.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I can promise you it's not for hourly workers

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Don't worry, some get fired outright, so that's technically less hours!

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 2 days ago

fewer work hours

Haha

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fewer hours should be a good thing.

Capitalism ruined that by taking the income from the people who were working and giving it all to the already rich people.

With adequate distribution of wealth (such as universal basic income), people will rejoice when their job is replaced by automation, because then they'll have more free time.

[–] StopTech@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When all jobs are able to automated it will mean human intelligence, skill and labor has been surpassed by machines. We will be treated like pets in a world run by machines, like WALL-E. We will have no real autonomy or ability to determine the future of the world. There will no longer be any reason to try at anything, since all useful tasks will be done by machines and the only things humans will do is pass the time and experience emotions. But we know that people aren't happy unless they have some purpose. Goals, challenges, struggles. Depression is going to skyrocket if machines get to human intelligence.

[–] lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

There is a long long way from fewer workhours to all jobs automated

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago

Capitalism. Not tech.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Production per worker has continued to climb since the industrial revolution. Hours of work have never gone down.

They would work all of us 14 hrs a day if they could.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It's not the technology itself but the evil/reckless people controlling/using it that make it so dangerous for everyone. Let me leave this here:

"The righteous need not cower before the drumbeat of human progress. Though the song of yesterday fades into the challenge of tomorrow, God still watches and judges us. Evil lurks in the datalinks as it lurked in the streets of yesteryear. But it was never the streets that were evil." - Sister Miriam (SMAC)

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Technology does empower or disempower those people depending on the details it has.

We are in a moment when it seems to be doing both. So those people are working very hard for their power. It's up to us to change it to only disempower them.

[–] StopTech@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Evil is part of human nature. Technology confers great power to both the good and bad, but it's much harder to create than destroy, so the result is that evil gets amplified more than good.

You're right ("fly in the ointment" and all of that). But we have to deal with it because, every time, sooner or later the technological cat gets out of the bag, right?

[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whose getting fewer work hours?

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's per person. There are less jobs, but each does the same number of hours as before

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Im saying people will work more jobs, but fewer hours at each of them. The kind of jobs meant to keep you part-time with no benefits.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Me, looking at man-made horrors beyond my comprehension: "What is that?" (I don't comprehend it)

[–] prex@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

The important thing is the horror that we made along the way.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Throw in infinite mindless distraction and you got yourself a deal.