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Are they able to make their own decisions or are they a slave to your conjuration magic?

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[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are bound and cannot make decisions in that way.

The proof is in the conjuration master quest.

You can summon dremora, creatures definitely capable of speaking, consenting, etc, via "Conjure Dremora Lord" and they have no dialogue, cannot be ordered, and do not act as a follower in skyrim would, even an unwilling one. But, at conjuration 90, in the College, you can get a spell, "Conjure Unbound Dremora", which summons a Dremora that is hostile, can speak, and can change its mind if you threaten it with violence. That dremora, once unsummoned, can then willingly (under duress) go get you a sigil stone, and carries it back with him.

Clearly, there's a distinction here, the unbound version of the spell had no compulsion effect on it. This would be needed since after dismissing the spell, the compulsion ends, so they wouldn't obey.

Logically, if we can make a "Summon Unbound Dremora", we could make a "Summon Unbound Flame Atronach", and that spell would repeatedly summon the same atronach with no compulsion, but the standard version of these spells summons things in a way that prevents consent.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would fire resistance potion save you from burning your special bits, though?

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not completely, at least with Skyrim's rules.

But you could also brew something to do a little bit of healing over some length of time, with fire resistance.

It's a little more complicated, but it is definitely achievable.

Although if we assume unbound atronachs have always been possible, an old-fashioned Oblivion potion can do the job easy.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Well, you can stack 90% magic rez with 90% fire rez

[–] Shadisica@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Atronachs summoned from Oblivion, questionable, probably not in my opinion. The only way to get proper, uncoerced consent (aka consent) would be to travel to Oblivion and seduce one there, I suppose.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago

Brb, gonna seduce a sexy atronach.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think they only appear as part of a bargain in exchange for your magical energy.

So it's not so much magical sex slavery as it is magical prostitution.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Is an atronach intelligent? If it's not then consent doesn't apply.