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I saw some posts about american wanting to move to Europe; so just before you guys make the move, double-triple check insurances/banks, because literally every time I (not american) do smth financially related in France, they ask me if I am american? If yes, they won't even open accounts/ give me insurance etc.. Sounds discriminatory but apperently because legal

I dont know if that expands to any other field

EDIT: lol i am now wondering what are people are downvoting for? You dont like that fact, so you downvote whoever told you that fact? Some reactions are hilarious

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago

yeah I have eu citizenship and can't open an account in europe. Now I can if I am resident to the particular area. I think europe is losing a big opportunity as I would not be surprised if quite a few us people would not mind having a bit of euros in a better run banking system just in case. They should tell the us to shove it with whatever laws or treaties prevent this.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 79 points 7 hours ago (10 children)

Google FATCA, the US Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act.

Anyone anywhere in the world that is either US citizen, or a green card holder, or in other ways related to Murica, must pay US taxes. It's insane, but the US tax system is powerful enough to bully all other countries into compliance.

Don't get me started. 🤮

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

is powerful enough to bully all other countries into compliance

But not to tax the rich or corporations at all.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

They can do anything they want. That is just something they don't want to do. Again, 🤮

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[–] th3dogcow@lemmy.world 98 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Financial institutions in Japan ask the same thing. It is because Americans have to pay tax to American even when they don’t live in America. It just means there is more paperwork apparently.

[–] IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's only if you make more than 100k, just for additional information.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

But they still have to report it, even if it is below.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 29 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, I had no idea how fucked you guys were with the taxes thing until I learned you had to declare it twice if living abroad

[–] th3dogcow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Luckily I’m not one of those guys haha

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 5 points 2 hours ago

It's not that funny tbh, they're people being treated poorly by their government

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 64 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

american in europe here,

this is true. it's very nearly impossible to open a bank account. There is exactly one bank in Switzerland who allows americans to open accounts, UBS. So far no banks in france have allowed me to open an account, even though I have a french residency permit. This makes it nearly impossible to take loans to buy things like houses or cars. Basically life here is impossible because being american fucking sucks.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 51 minutes ago

That's crazy. I never had any of these issues living in Japan. Why does the EU make it so much harder than Japan does?

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Open an account at Service CU out of NH. Designed to work in Europe (IBAN, free foreign ATMs, etc). Everyone who works for the state department gets it, and afaik it's open to the public.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

iban thing is nice, do you know if you can finance cars or homes? right now i have to have to drive around a beater because no european bank = no loan

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve used ServiceCU for more than 20 years and yes you can buy cars and such through them

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

thanks! I'm going to check them out.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Renounce your citizenship.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 31 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

i don't have a second citizenship to fall back on, so i'd be stateless. also, i can't afford to since you have to pay all the taxes on potential income for the next 10 years or something

[–] teft@piefed.social 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Only people who make more than 200k/year or have more than 2 million in unrealized taxable assets have to pay an expatriation tax.

There is no paying future taxes as that’d be asinine.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

TIL, i thought i read that 10 year tax thing somewhere. probably just bs i saw online and didn't look into it

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

I would absolutely talk to an embassy or at least an international tax professional before making decisions and not rely on Lemmy.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

It’s not discriminatory. They don’t have any legal obligation to serve citizens of foreign countries. Citizen of USA isn’t a protected class. When they do serve American citizens it triggers a whole lot of regulatory work, and it’s understandable they don’t want to do that unless you’re a high net worth individual (ie they make enough profit to cover that cost)

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not discriminatory.

I mean it quite literally is discriminatory, but it's legal and justified discrimination.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 hours ago

Good point.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

They do have an obligation to serve their own citizens. The US double tax reporting bullshit does apply to dual citizens.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 41 points 9 hours ago

I hate to recommend the evil empire, but there's a very good sub on this topic called r/AmerExit. Sometimes a community is too niche to exist on the Fediverse, and one must hold one's nose and visit Reddit for certain content.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

AFAIK this has to do with US tax law and how it applies to income earned by US citizens abroad.

I have never answered yes to this, but would be surprised if it were impossible or even considerably harder for US persons to open bank accounts. I always thought this just triggered slightly different rules for the bank?

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 hours ago

Lots of non-American banks don't want to deal with the rules, so it's easier for them to just say that they won't open accounts for Americans.

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