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Manjaro 2.0 Manifesto (forum.manjaro.org)

submitted 1 day ago by Korkki@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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[–] Veraxis@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Interesting. As a former Manjaro user (several years ago now), my problems with the distro were more with their approach to package management and the AUR. They withhold packages for the main repositories, but the dependencies for AUR packages will always assume the latest packages, so I would constantly get into these dependency deadlocks where I could not install or could not update certain AUR packages because the necessary dependencies were the incorrect version. I view this as a fundamental technical problem with their approach, and was my main reason for switching away.

Hopefully the new structure/leadership will result in technical changes which fix their issues. Though if I am being honest, the vision of a Manjaro with rolling packages is basically just a reskinned EndeavourOS, so I am not sure what they would need to do for me to recommend this distro to anyone.

[–] Undaunted@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This was exactly the same for me. Every Manjaro install I had broke sooner or later because of these dependency issues. After my 3rd or 4th try, I decided to switch to EndeavorOS which is extremely stable for me and serves me well for a couple of years now.

[–] Maragato@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

I’ve used Manjaro and, over time, it’s left me without GRUB and without a graphical interface on several occasions – just as has happened with CachyOS, EndeavourOS, Arcolinux, and others. That’s why I no longer use Arch or Arch-based distributions. I admit that, in my opinion, Manjaro is the best Arch-based distribution, provided you don’t install anything from the AUR repository. The problem is that Pamac and some of Manjaro’s own tools don’t follow Arch’s dependency rules, so that mix of Manjaro’s own repositories and Arch’s original repositories can be a problem.

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just avoid the AUR on Manjaro whenever possible. It still works 99% of the time. The few things I actually need to be bleeding edge I will just try to build from source.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (6 children)

IMO they should have made this the official policy instead of adding optional support for the AUR in pamac.

At the end of the day, the AUR is just a pastebin full of pkgbuild files for people who know what they're doing. And as a distro aimed more at the average Linux user, rawdogging the AUR probably just shouldn't be part of the equation.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It optional, for power users. That the point.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Everything is always optional for power users on linux. What I'm saying is they shouldn't have made a GUI checkbox that's also easy enough for non power users to check.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

So power users can't use GUI?

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[–] evol@lemmy.today 4 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I have a dream, that one day people will stop making arch derivatives that fragment the user space even more

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Go install TempleOS

[–] evol@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

real

[–] jsnfwlr@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why should arch be any different - how many distros are there based on Debian (or Ubuntu, which is based on Debian)?

[–] evol@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Are any commonly used desktop distros debian based besides Ubuntu ? Ubuntu derivatives are not as they follow the latest upstream packages 1:1 usually iirc. Monjaro has its own dependency update schedule so it creates a new userspace dependency set to build against. If 10 distros follow the same thing we have 10 different timestamps of arch you have to build against.

Maybe my info is out of date, I just use arch & fedora.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Lmde?

[–] evol@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago

I think this just bases off Debian stable which makes it not too bad

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

at least most of them do the healthy thing and just slap on a desktop theme and call it a day

[–] evol@lemmy.today 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

thankfully so

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Welcome to Linux town, man. Debian's been bloody flogged into a million distros, but it's OK. Arch will be too.

[–] evol@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago

Soon we will have forks of arch forks and each one will have a completely different set of dependencies depending on when the owners decide to freeze the package. Then someone will use it and wonder why theirs so many bugs

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Acknowledging the issues and having a plan is a first good sign of trust. Executing is the other, so we'll see how this will going. I personally lost trust and interest into Manjaro and switched away. From personal experience, there were technical issues (caused by Manjaro), and social issues (didn't like the administration and project leader). But I hope they "recover" and be better, and survive.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good.

As a long time Manjaro user is good to see something happening.

As to why I'm a Manjaro user: I installed it on my laptop years ago and it served me well, with only a couple of hiccups (the now famous SSL certificate issue and some repo keys that were broken), nothing too difficult to overcome but that points out some major organizational problems.

Other than that, it just works wonderfully and I'm too lazy to hop.

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Manjaro is the distro that made me ditch Windows completely. I even bought a Tuxedo Laptop with Manjaro preinstalled a few years ago, and I almost never had any problem (this laptop is still my main device, and I never reinstalled the OS). I love this distro, but if the financial situation is bad enough for them to fire the only full-time developer, it's time to change things. If the community hard forks, I may follow. Or begin to distrohop.

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[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (15 children)

just stop using manjaro and move on, seriously

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[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But why? Just pick a new name and fork, if there's something worth preserving in the distro contents. I don't understand what the something is though.

[–] leviathan@feddit.org 5 points 22 hours ago

I would say it's the branding, Manjaro is a good name for a distro, and it's known for making Arch stable.. It was loved once for a reason

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

But why? Just pick a new name and fork

They aren't stupid to abandon the brand and community just like that and start from nothing. The team plans to start a nonprofit that will work alongside and not under the current Manjaro company. They do say that if Manjaro GmbH & Co. KG declines, or the feel that they are dragging their heels (which they have done) they will start a strike. They are doing this rn. If that fails then they will just move to the next stage which is to leave and/or fork the project.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago

Manjaro itself is basically a fork of Arch, I thought. I'm not sure what its attraction is supposed to be, but I'll take your word for it. I similarly don't understand the attraction of Ubuntu over Debian.

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[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

But why? Just pick another arch or arch-based distro like Cachy, Endeavour or even KDE OS.

Manjaro has been a slow sinking ship for too much time, anyone wasting their time with it is equally responsible.

[–] cookiemonster@beehaw.org 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is today a bad day to install Manjaro then?

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah it actually is. if you're looking for an arch based distro I'd suggest endeavour

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

I used Manjaro up until a couple of years ago. I don't recommend it now. I switched to endeavor os. I hear cachy os is another popular arch based one these days.

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