NVIDIA Says You're "Completely Wrong" About DLSS 5 Being Slop

[–] dumbass@piefed.social 47 points 1 week ago

Meth dealer says you're "Completely wrong" about meth being destructive.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cigarette company says you're "Completely wrong" about smoking causing cancer.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The dildo seat maker says you're "Completely wrong" about their new ass-blaster 4500 being the new standard for seats on buses.

[–] Democracy_Manifest@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Mr. Garrison?

[–] ComradePedro@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I used to think DLSS was a cool technology that allowed older GPUs to run demanding games at high resolutions, I myself had good experiences with it, but this? DLSS 5 is literally an AI slop filter for video games - not an upscaler anymore, just an enshittification filter. So disappointing. I’d rather play at 720p than use this shit

[–] SavageCoconut@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What does DLSS5 actually do? Care to explain, please?

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You have two 5090 GPUs installed and you can have one process for your games and the other will use AI to alter the appearance of games based on what the AI does.

For example the AI filter can change facial appearances, textures, add or remove items from levels, write in text and alter pretty much everything about the appearance of your games.

Whats really bad about this is if you replay the level or game, the AI filter will do different things that each time, so its not consistent and it can make playing the game almost impossible (think about a cracked wall or secret area you need to break through, well the filter may decide to texture it the same as the rest of the walls, making it impossible to find unless you know its there).

Ultimately this isn't a huge deal as no one is buying one 5090, let alone two of them, but it's stupid and a perfect example of a company shoving AI where it doesn't belong.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

I say "shut the fuck up & go bankrupt already" is this a headline too?

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the fact they're responding to criticize so quickly makes me think their desperate to keep AI going, their scheme is cracking.

[–] 1Fuji2Taka3Nasubi@piefed.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Making you question reality that you can see with your own eyes is the definition of Gaslighting isn't it?

[–] winkledinkle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

No u

[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah well yr mom says ur wrong abt her ability to choke down fat hawg 24/7

[+] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have been looking forward to this tech for almost a decade now. Just don't use it if you don't want to use it.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why is this particular revision the one you've been waiting for, as compared to any of the previous DLSS implementations?

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The style transfer filter specifically, not DLSS in general. If you look up NVIDIA Canvas you can get a better idea of what was anticipated and why there is so much potential in this. I expected it show up in the NVIDIA overlay and Ansel stack but it does make sense it is part of DLSS.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every game will look the same. Enjoy.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

Thanks fun police. I'll have fun the right way next time, I promise.

[–] TalkingFlower@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Very good for simulator titles with hyperrealistic graphics.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, that makes sense then, lol. That's pretty much the entire selling point to this version besides performance improvements. Personally, like a lot of people online, I'm not a fan of what I've seen so far.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Yea I mean the pictures they shared were ugly but I don't care about some settings I am just happy that a goal I have been waiting for has been reached. Which is real time style transfer on games.

[+] FishFace@piefed.social -31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Too late, the anti-AI fanatics hate it, and won't listen to anything except people who agree with them.

If you don't like the demo, or don't like eventual game screenshots, just don't buy the games that use it (or don't enable it). It's a tool and it's up to developers to use it in a way that makes the game look good - or to fail at doing so.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

just don’t buy the games that use it

This is called the "Free Market Fallacy", and is always a terrible defence of any shitty practice, whether it be games or vehicles or banks or HOAs. The market just isn't liquid or efficient enough for that to be a reasonable position.

[+] FishFace@piefed.social -12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The market for video games is pretty efficient. It doesn't apply to necessities, or services with natural monopolies, but Nvidia has competition not just from AMD but also its own old tech, and games arent necessities.

But really this isn't about the market: you have a choice of whether to buy and play games you find ugly or not.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

are you a bot? I ask because that response was grammatically completely coherent and intelligent-sounding, but the entire content bore no relation to reality. I mean there’s not even anything to argue with, it was just straight up 100% wrong.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But they're not wrong. Video games are a luxury and you can just decide to not buy games that have features you don't want.

The only way to make the companies change is to vote with your wallet. Just look at the Kimmel fiasco. It only took Disney losing like 1% of their subscriptions to change course.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

That’s a great example of the exception proving the rule: companies across all industries do shitty things on the regular, but incidents like Jimmy Kimmel only happen when you get a once-in-a-year massive swell so big that even I heard about it, and I don’t even live in the US.

Your example doesn’t prove that the buyers control the market, it demonstrates just how weak that control is and how big a backlash is needed to get even a tiny change made.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You miss the point. Nvidia will pressure future titles to need DLSS5, which means you will need a $3000 GPU. Huang is literally celebrating shortages of chips.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

If this was a opensource dev making some filter for games it would neat. Like Big Naturals Withers. But this is like if Gamesworkshop said if ypu want to play a game based our IP you have parade out big naturals withers at least once an hour of gameplay.

Nvidia litterally does that kind of shit all the time, and they are in an even more insanly dominate position then ever.

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The demo made Indiana Jones into Iowa Jack. Why would anyone think it's cool to completely remove the soul of your favorite games?

The market for ultra- realistic graphics in video games is shrinking every year. People want smooth graphics and clean mechanics

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