Unfortunately, the leaking and/or burning facilities are creating years worth of pollution in a fraction of the time.
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Unburned methane escaping is far far worse for climate change than burning it so yeah these strike are bad.
It's the so called payer-decider gap. The costs of this are spread out among basically the whole world (payers) while the deciders of when to end this war are basically just the US and Israel (deciders).
Since they don't bear the full consequences of the war, they don't have to consider the full consequences when deciding.
This is one way to drive EV sales
And up the heatpumps
EVs will not solve climate change. Only a low-enenrgy use scenario is sustainable. We have so much more to do than just drive a different kind of car and people are not organizing this sort of effort enough.
While you are not wrong, the enemy of "perfect" should not be "good".
In this case, presuming folks get into a new vehicle ever 4-5 years on average (I know the number is skewing more toward 6-7 in the US, but the point stands) having them switch to a car that has a slightly higher production impact but makes up for it after the first 1.5 years of ownership still means we achieve net lower emissions. There are numerous studies showing that EVs, even when used on less clean electricity sources, drastically reduce total lifetime emissions compared to combustion engine vehicles.
And let's not forget that we can power EVs using renewable sources (solar, wind, hydro) which is just an economically and environmentally more sustainable practice than the single-use burning of a bunch of hydrocarbons.
I think it's also more efficient to burn the hydrocarbons in a large generator and using the power to charge an EV,
combustion engines on vehicles are limited in weight size and shape, and since its rpm varies a lot during driving it is not operating at peak efficiency
a large and heavy generator can extract more of the energy, and always runs at the optimal operating speed, making it way more efficient, producing enough additional to cover the conversion losses of the mechanical->electric->electrochemical->electric->mechanical chain and then some
The last time I looked the difference in efficiency isn't large. Somewhere like 10%, but it does make a difference at scale.
That doesn't track with what I've seen. I've seen a few sources mention much larger efficiency gains. E.g. From motor trend: https://www.motortrend.com/news/evs-more-efficient-than-internal-combustion-engines
- If you were using solely coal power plants to run EVs, that would use 31% less energy than gasoline cars.
- That number goes up to 48% with natural gas power plants.
- And you have the option to instead use complete renewable sources.
I was talking about the efficiency difference between a generator and an internal combustion vehicle engine running on the same fuel.
We're all going to roast alive. Or starve if you're far enough north.
ICE cars, and other ICE transport will have to stop, right? That's what's going to happen, we've already passed peak oil.
I suppose a drop in natural gas supply might put a bit of pressure on oil prices, so indirectly maybe?
It will probably get replaced by coal meanwhile.
Coal power drops in China and India for first time in 52 years after clean-energy records
Coal is too expensive and inefficient. Solar/Wind with battery backup is becoming the new hotness, as rechargeable lithium and sodium battery prices/kwh plunge below coal mining costs.
A big appeal of natural gas was its dirt cheap extraction and transportation cost. You pressurize a well and it pumps itself. Gas is lightweight and easy to pump along pipes, so transportation is low-cost and very easy. And the machinery to convert the gas into electricity is cheap and prolific.
Coal doesn't work that way. Huge manual labor for extraction and transport. And using coal to generate electricity requires enormous capital investment that is heavily centralized. If you don't already have a coal plant, you're unlikely to build any new ones. Even in the US, a country flush with coal, the federal government is needing to force plants to stay open and operating at a loss in order to keep demand up.
People arent understanding how free solar is, its cheap to install and maintain and has no further cost for producing energy, the fuel is the sun. Why would China want to spend money on coal, on the plants, the maintenance of them, when they can erect a solar array in the vast space they have and cut some grass around it every couple weeks.
There's issues of base load, of compactness, of reliability, and of yield. That's why new Chinese coal plants (and Indian and African/Latin American plants) keep getting built.
But there's a bottleneck in material supply across the pie of energy options. China gets much of its coal from Australia, a country that's increasingly hostile to the CCP government. As a result, domestic coal production in China has picked up notably.
It's still a grim picture of the future, precisely because these emerging market states state puts mid-term economic growth ahead of long-term ecological preservation. The current western governments are, similarly, prioritizing annualized rates of growth/consumption over real ecological limits.
But for Oil/Gas production, this war is definitely reshaping what countries consider viable or sustainable even in these short-term time horizons.
Most of that isn't too important. The real failure you neglected to mention is the loss of the negative reinforcement that comes with coal based energy generation. If we keep burning the stuff, the big man can't give out as many lumps to the bad children, and so they grow up to be criminals running big companies.
You can't just scale it that quickly. Some of it will be replaced by coal, not all.
Some of it will but the more prices go up the more the economicals of renewables stack up, there was a massive surge in renewables installations after Russia invaded Ukraine due to higher coal/gas prices
This graph of LNG infrastructure in the "Saudi Arabia of natural gas" current, planned, and proposed is sad to look at.
Graph from 2023:
I've seen much the same in the US. Work for a pipeline company and the demand for LNGs is basically maxed out.
That said, a lot of this is coming from retirement of coal plants and other less efficient means of energy generation.
Also, at least wrt Saudi Arabia, they're having very similar problems to Qatar. And don't forget that this was kicked off by Israeli strikes on Iranian production. The whole region is getting rattled.
That's not solving, that's speedrunning.