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It may look like a beat-up old pair of hiking boots, but in fact it's a pair of beat-up old hiking boots with new soles, lining, heel-counters, shanks, hardware, laces and one hell of a cleaning and reconditioning job.

Around 4 years ago I bought this pair of Danner Lights. They were worn fairly close to daily, and have some hard miles on them hiking and backpacking.

Sent them in to Danner for their recrafting service. 4-6 weeks and a couple days for shipping later I just got them back.

They're just the tiniest bit snug because of the new lining, but otherwise these are unmistakably my boots that have broken in to fit my feet, but the soles still have treads on them.

Also, Danner customer service was great to deal with. When I shipped my boots out to them, I got the notification that they had been delivered, but after a day or two I hadn't gotten the email from Danner to confirm they received it. I wasn't exactly worried, I figured it would probably take them a couple days to open the box and get my boots checked in, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to give them a call anyway.

After a reasonable number of rings, my call was answered by an actual human.

And one with no heavy accent, who didn't mumble into the phone, and had no attitude problem, and most astoundingly, actually worked for Danner at their office.

But so I asked if there was any way he could confirm that my boots had been delivered to the right place. He took my tracking info, looked it up, and was able to tell me that yes, they had them, because he knew the guy who signed for them.

And then he gave me a direct number to the recrafting department in case I needed to follow up with them any further (I didn't feel any need for that, but after recently going through hell trying to get in touch with anyone at the local delivery hub for a company that was supposed to deliver some new appliances for me with no luck to figure out what the hell was going on with repeated delivery delays, I really appreciated that)

It's kind of sad that I'm so used to automated menus, outsourced call centers, and customer service reps who clearly want to be doing anything else but helping me (not that I blame them, I don't want to work either) that that's all it takes to make a customer service experience feel great.

If I have any complaints at all about my experience, it's that the white stitching around the soles was replaced with brown. I thought the white looked pretty sharp, but these are hiking boots they're just going to get dirty anyway.

But anyway, I'm really happy with my experience, and I'm looking forward to hopefully another 4+ years with these boots.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

The joke back in the day was that tire sandals were good for 40,000 miles.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I can't remember if I heard it here but I have heard (and feel, anecdotally) that cycling between wearing two different pairs of shoes leads them to lasting longer than if you wore one pair until they fell apart then a second pair until they fell apart.

I don't know how that could possibly work unless giving shoes a "break" rather than wearing every day extends their life somehow.

My evidence: I have had a separate pair of running shoes and walking shoes for a few years now.

[–] leftascenter@jlai.lu 17 points 1 week ago

AFAIK, it is the leather ageing faster, linked to bacteria growth due to humidity. Cycling between 2, ideally 3 pairs, allows the shoe to dry and kill the bacteria in between.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In addition to the leather stuff the other commenter mentioned, foam gets compressed during usage (especially running shoes with a lot of foam). It can take several days for the foam to recover. If you run in the same shoes every day, you aren't getting the full benefit of the foam, and you are basically beating it while it's already down.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

Aaah that kind of makes intuitive sense

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago

That's only a requirement for leather.

I live out of a backpack, so I can only own one pair of boots. I switched to synthetic, and my boots last decades instead of years.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

Theseus’ shoes

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I definitely have been considering resoleable shoes but really seems like that is only do able for heavy duty shoes which I really dont have much cause to wear.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, unfortunately options are a little limited as far as what most people would want as an everyday shoe. Most of the recraftable shoes out there are either boots or what most people would probably consider to be sort of a dress shoe.

There's still some options out there, Allen Edmonds has some recraftable sneaker-type shoes, though they may not be everyone's cup of tea (they're certainly not mine)

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

People gotta get punker and accept the glory of the work boot as an everyday shoe

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Chacos (sturdy sandals) are able to be rebuilt Ship of Theseus style. A resole is half the price of a new pair, but you can swap out straps or hardware as desired. I need to send mine in.

[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Solovair make boots in the UK which are basically Dr Martens but still hand made. They are fairly light boots which can be resold and come in various styles.

I've had 2 pairs for a few years now and they are wearing beautifully. I've not had to re-sole them yet but it should be easily doable.

[–] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

seems like that is only do able for heavy duty shoes

Huh? Goodyear welting is just a construction method. You can apply it to any shoe style like loafers or chukkas. See e.g. Crockett & Jones "Harvard" or the less expensive https://berwickshoes.com/gb/9628-k5-superbuck-snuff.html

The only problem with Goodyear welted shoes it's that the sole is very stiff. You can try Blake stitched instead.

But yeah in general you'll need to change the shoe style you wear to more traditional. Goral has some more casual blake stitched styles too: https://www.goral-shoes.co.uk/collections/mens

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

What do you mean by “heavy duty”? Thursday Boot Company has resoleable boots that are decidedly not work boots.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks to the replies I have found many blake stitch and goodyear welt sneakers, now I just have to pick a pair and save up

[–] CactusEcho@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

but in fact it’s a pair of beat-up old hiking boots with new soles, lining, heel-counters, shanks, hardware, laces and one hell of a cleaning and reconditioning job.

Wouldn't be cheaper to buy new boots?

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

New pair costs $400- something, and I consider them to have been worth every penny of that. Before I got these I normally got about 2 years out of a pair of cheaper, non-recraftable boots that usually cost me north of $200.

Recrafting cost $280 (and I suspect it could have been even cheaper if I went to a local cobbler,) so assuming I get at least 3 years out of them, still cheaper than buying a new pair of the cheaper boots, and definitely cheaper than buying a new pair of these3

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

I don't know this brand, but good quality, Goodyear welt leather boots can cost hundreds of dollars. This service, might have cost a couple hundred and still be worth it.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Don't go judging a man's actions before walking a mile in his shoes! 😜

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] GoTeamBoobies@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I personally don't have any experience with Danner, but a friend swore by them.

I have two pairs of Redwing boots that have held up incredibly well over the years and highly recommend.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Redwing customer service sucks, their warranty is bullshit, and their Goodyear welt falls apart in just over a year. I will never purchase another pair of redwing boots and I am far from alone.

[–] Kimjongtooill@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I've tried them twice. They never broke in and got comfortable.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I find them pretty comfortable once broken on, but they don't have long left after that

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Same issue. I don't really care how long they last if I can't wear them

[–] GoTeamBoobies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Break-in was rough, took about a month of regular wear

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn that is quite a split in experience. I don't know who to believe!

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Perhaps the company has changed in recent years. Remember, when people talk about how long their product has lasted, they bought it years ago.

[–] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

(the link scrolls to wrong post, you're looking for post by user "emptym") Final boss 38 year old shoes https://www.styleforum.net/threads/shoes-with-character.61011/page-51#post-12480047

[–] vorpuni@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of old army surplus boots and shoes are Goodyear-welted or in the case of Italian mountain boots, have a Norwegian double stitch. They cost nothing when compared to dress boots, you can find NOS boots for 25 to 100€ and they last a very long time: you can hope for 4-5 resoles if you let them dry after every wear.

[–] pedantichedgehog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where would you recommend buying old army surplus boots?

[–] vorpuni@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 1 week ago

Vinted or whatever the locals use the most in the EU. Outside of the EU I don't know.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

and one with no heavy accent

K

[–] eneff@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

and one with no heavy accent

What a repulsive thing to say. :/

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Pretty much the whole point of a call center job is to be able to verbally communicate with your callers clearly and effectively.

And, like it or not, heavy accents can really get in the way of that, and I think that's an accessibility issue. It makes it difficult for people to access services they need to use.

Not everyone has great hearing, some people have cognitive issues, some people are just not used to hearing different accents. I've had to make calls to customer service for my mom because she just could not understand the reps she was getting to be able to resolve the issues she was having.

Most accents don't cause an issue for most people, but for some accents with some people they really do, and it's incredibly frustrating to be in the position where you can't understand the person who's supposed to be helping you to fix your issue because companies don't want to spend the money to hire customer service reps who can speak clearly for positions where that's really the only qualification that's needed.

And it's not just foreign accents, I honestly have more trouble with certain American accents, I've gotten a few people that I'd swear were trying to do a Boomhauer impression.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I learned the key is to avoid real leather. Even if you get $400 italian boots, that shit can't take literally daily wear. It needs to rest.

The good faux leathers (using the material used in luxary yachts and car upholstery) lasts decades.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, plastic typically lasts longer than leather. That is the primary selling point of plastic.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Personally my problem has never really been the leather wearing out, it's almost always the soles that give out on me long before that.

And failing that it's usually other hardware like zippers

The only pair I really remember having an issue with the leather was a pair of steel toed work boots, and they developed some holes on the toes because I tended to use them to kick things around. Not too many materials hold up too well to being banged around between steel and a rock on whatever, so I don't exactly blame the leather there.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

I replaced the soles 4 times before the uppers were trash (because they were leather)

[–] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Technically all shoes should rest, but yeah if you’re in a humid climate leather handles it worse.

Good leather will last SO much longer if you take care of it. Had leather shoes I wore everyday until the sole wore through. It was initially super thick and I’d still be wearing them if it was a resolable shoe. Now that’s all I get and they’ll probably outlive me.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're not taking care of your boots then, leather is skin and needs care. I have a pair of boots in my closet that lasted ten years, until I made a mistake and ruined them. I'm not ready to let them go yet.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every few months I would polish them. That wasn't the problem. They need to rest. If they get wet and you keep using them (because you use them every day and only have 1 pair of shoes), they will not last

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Polishing looks nice but it's not moisturizing the leather like an oil, like mink oil. My Double-H boots were the boots I wore if I wasn't in work boots. Those boots went from CA to FL, NH to TX, on a motorcycle rode in the weather from Mexico to Canada and back to Southern California.
Just because they're $400 and Italian doesn't mean they're any good. Fashion boots aren't necessarily using good leather or good soles.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I used oil. They weren't fashion boots. Good hiking brand.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Maybe you were just harder on your boots than my daily walkin around boots. My work boots never last as long because, well, work.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I wore a pair of Double-H boots for ten years. So broken in they were like heavy leather slippers. Eventually the toe collapsed during a road trip on my motorcycle shifting gears. I was melting wax into the leather to reharden it but got overzealous with the heat and shrank the leather. I hope to find a cobler or leathersmith that can repair it. Double-H no longer make that style harness boot, not in brown anyways.

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