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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 53 minutes ago

I love you Leo but these leaders couldn't care less about god. Perhaps a better twist would "Leaders who wage wars are antichrists on Earth"?

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago

Every US president in the last 35 years has bombed the middle east.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

[] Leo said. "He revealed the gentle face of God, who always rejects violence.

I think my Bible might be faulty

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

The Israelites were YAHWEH’s special people, so when they are oppressed it’s bad, but they are obligated to genocide anyone that stands in their way. Even babies and animals.

This should sound familiar even you have never read a line of a Bible or Torah.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No no no. That was the Old Testament which doesn't count anymore.

The New Testament is the one that we care about (except we've we don't)

[–] Enfors@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Because God's absolute morality somehow changes over time while still being absolute, because something or other that makes no sense.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I mean, that's not wild on it's face. You can explain shifting morality with respect to changing material conditions and social relationships.

I might argue that the Old Testament God was intended to offer leverage to the intelligencia (priest class) over the military/aristocracy (kings and their courtiers).

Meanwhile, the New Testament was fundamentally describing a God of Slaves, preaching equinimity and grace in the next life for the hardships of the modern day.

And then, when the slave class overthrew and supplanted the Pagan aristocracy, suddenly the Old Testament was back in fashion again.

It makes sense historically

[–] Enfors@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Where is he getting that information, exactly? Can this be independently verified?

Big f---ing /s on this one...

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok based af of him

Also I'm wondering what the bets are like on how long it takes Vance to kill him

He probably knows better than to shake hands with Vance, curse or not.

[–] MrAvogadro@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

The position of Pope has been used to send many people to their death primarily in the middle ages. Julius II was called the Warrior Pope, he was the first and only pontiff to command and lead a papal army into battle. 1503 - 1513 and then there were the Crusades

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Fictional characters don't matter

[–] Enfors@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What are you talking about?

... Leo isn't fictional.

[–] sveltecider@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The pope is a hoax and always has been

There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy, and there is no Pope of Catholicism.

[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

Being an American and a good Christian is contradictory. Look at how it started in America, forced conversions of native American children and that was just of what we know of it, at least here in America.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Congrats on the dumbest thing I've read today, and I've read quotes from Trump today!

"Based on where you are born, you can't be a good person." That's literally what you are saying.

You: "Being Chinese and a good driver is contradictory."

You: "Being African and a smart student is contradictory."

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Being an American and a good person is contradictory, what with the numerous genocides throughout her history and all, that being one of them.

I get what you're saying but it's hard to lay blame on a modern person for some shit a related group of people did 150 years ago. That's like saying it's impossible to be Irish and a good Catholic, what with the child slavery prisons, which are far more recent. Or that is impossible to be a Muslim and a good person, what with the things other Muslims have done in the name of God.

You're responsible for you. Other people are responsible for themselves. Unless you happen to believe that every person is responsible for the sins of his father. Which, weirdly enough the Catholic Church does, but didn't happen to be involved in that particular genocide.

Also, counterpoint, Mr Rogers. American, Christian, good person. Or Jimmy Carter.

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago

It's almost like putting general groups of people into stereotypical categories makes it easy to hate and blame and keep us divided.

I wonder who stands to benefit the most from that.

[–] ZombieChicken@reddthat.com 5 points 5 hours ago

In a manner of speaking, this is correct. A Christian's home is in Heaven, they simply travel here as immigrants.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

That's just original sin talk. Also, Leo is American. For an American to be a good Christian takes extra work, "it's not my fault but it is my responsibility" and whatnot, but I've met Americans who are good Christians, and yeah they're involved in attempting to right the wrongs that can be righted here

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

so does that mean Catholic teaching changes over time ? Because to my knowledge, the crusader were motivated by the Pope speeches !

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Remember the ban on ranged weaponry?

[–] sveltecider@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

To keep it short: yes. That's the point of a pope and a church.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Yes, it does.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

It does, and will continue to do so.

The bishops responsible for ejecting the Pope are likely aware of this, and is by in large why Leo was chosen. The church really doesn't get to set the cultural trend as much as nudge it in a particular direction. It's the bumpers in a bowling alley, not the ball.

People are going to find something they don't like,then seek justification for not liking it.

Two dudes fuckin, ew! I would never do that that's so gross. Oh look, here's this passage in this book I like saying that's actually evil! Hell yeah!

When it looks like 'Christians' cherry pick passages to support whatever nonsense they're on about, that's because they are, always have done so and always will. Because the nonsense was always more important to them than the Bible. It just so happens that the Bible says a lot of shit that's very easy to take out of context to support whatever nonsense you want.

The Pope is reading the room, and providing justification. Or rather, the Cardinals elected a Pope that aligns with the current climate and he's just saying whatever ~~God tells him to~~ comes to mind. He might swing a few people but if he pushes too hard what he'll just alienate some Catholics and they might break off and do their own thing, again.

[–] LordPassionFruit@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think you meant to say 'electing the pope' instead of 'ejecting the pope'?

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I did. But ejecting the Pope is a funny image so it stays.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I move to install an ejection seat in the Popemobile.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Motion carries. All opposed say : ic̷̢̧̡̡̡͉̩̠̤̻̠̠͇̳̝̹͎͚͙̖͉̳͓̦̳̰̳͒̓̐̆͋͒̌̿͒̈̅̾̑͋̂͒͐̇̑̄̄̏͗̃͒̍͂͆̍̈́͗͊̚̚̚͜͝͠͝͝ķ̷̨̨̢̛̻͇͎̰͉̤͇̳͍̫̰̣̘͇̮̱̠̖̞̤̭̩̮͍̬̼̱̝̝͎͕͖͉͎̱͍̣̺̯̣̜̭̝͎̙̞̉̈́̽͌̒͒̑̾̈̾̈́͛́̉̉̄̔̽̍͆̆̏̉̈́̆̽̈́̋̾̊̒̚̕̚̕̕̕͜͜ͅy̶̢̨̡̧̢̧̲̘͎̺̳̘̘͓̟͍̼̬̦̗̜̠̰̖̙̠͕͖̫̪̦͓̖̯̞͌̂͌̐͂̎̏̐͂̓̃͐͑͗̄͌̽̑̒̏̂̌͐̍̔̃̉͜͝i̴̧̡̨̨̢͈͔͖̳̣͙̭͈̖̯̭̬̩̫̼̟̮͍̤͕̫̹̭͔͇̣̥̱̗̩̘̼̖̯͆̾̃̈́̃̒̾͗͒̿̚͜͠c̵̝̞̞͌̾̉́́̏͛͆́̃̈́̒͂͒́͌̐̊͆͂͑̓̈́̄͒̑̽̈́̇̎͂͑̓̽̾̽͋̐̾͗̌̚͝͝͝͝k̸̢̢̡̧̘͕̘͇͔̲̬͓͙̝̺͙͙̩̮̹̼̺͕͓͇̭̣̬̭̫͓͙̞̖̭̱̖̮͓̤͋͊̆͛̃́́̎̉̕͜ͅy̷̨͍̙͓̦̦̳̗̲͇͈̞͙̮͕͎̯̝̼̩̰͔͓͓̥̤͍̤̙͇̣̓͗̽͛̈́͆̈́̍̔́̿͊̈́́̎̀̌̐̿̂͗̐̎͑͝͝ͅͅb̸̢̨̨̨̢̼̮͈̙̟̠̹̞̲̯̳̙̤̮̲͓̹̰̠̬̥̲̟̤̖̳͓͚̻̯̬̤̙̥̘̟̐̓́́̈́̔͌̾͂̒̂̈͒͌̀̌̌̅̂̇̆͑̆̆̑̊͌̕͜͠͠ͅų̸̨̨̨̢̨̡̛̛͇̪̯͙͔̠͕͓̬̳̖͉͙̪̦̤̦̘͕͈̯̣͔̣̱̯̫̳̥̫͔̗̼̼̠̣̳̠̤̫̫̻͚͕̠̘̐̓̃͐̿̇̔̑̒̈́́̓͆̈̄̈̏̆͛̐̾̄͌̀͂̐̓͘͘͝͝͝ͅm̶̨̧̨̡͕͇̜̦͓͈̦̗̘̭͎̪͓͇͎̻̼̰̼͖̰͉̙͎̼̹͉̭͎̫̻̯͕̯͙̭͇̗͔̦̜̼͗͐͛̑̀͊̒̊̃͒̓͐̌͊̿̾̑͆̕͜͜͠ͅp̴̢͒̈́̑̔̈́̒̃͗̾̀̓̀̇́̃̑̌̈́̓́̾̅̃̂͗͗̅̀̐͗̈̃̚͠͝ͅi̷̧̧̨̡̢̡̢̧̛̛̗̲͈̮̬͉̞͉̮͚̱̦̻͙͉̗͈̜͙̦̱̱̱͈̣͕̞̰̮̼̦̯͍̜̭̻͙̩̻̯̠̮̦͑̃̓̂̐̈́̈́͂̎̎̽̒̎̇̾͋͋̓̂͋̇̿̕͘͘͘͘͜͜͠͠͝͝ͅċ̸̢̨̢̛̗̙̪͖͓̭̠͚̯͉̣̣̪̲͇̠̩̗̞̺͉̦̲͚͔̖̞̳̫͕̠̋̽̽̈́͆̅̈́͂̎͂͗̏͊̄̈́̈́͛̆̀̔̉̀͐̌͊̈͋͆͊̓̇͑̏͗̌͌̏̌̓͌͘͘̕̚͠͝͝͠͠ͅͅä̷̡̡̤̣͍̮͔̠̫̣̜̙̪͓̖͎́̔͛̌̀̍̎̈͛̍̋͋̉̂͌̇͛̒͌̓̓̕͘͝i̶̻͚̲͋̈n̸̨̘̲̲̹̜̘͙̬̝̱̙͍̱͔͍͋͆̈́͛̔̐̓̓́͊̊́̀̃̔̒̋̄̐͌̀̍̅͘͘͠ḯ̸̧͍̥̞̝̲͔͇͔͓͙̳̱̥̖̭͉͓̥̱͓͍͛̎͂̈̄͋͗̈̌̃̑͊̋̓̎̈͘̚͝͠ͅͅẁ̵̛̟̠̳̭͇̮̻̥̱̘̙̬̝͍̞̭̤̻̈́̔̍̐͛̊̈́̿̏̂͌͌̃͂͋͒͋͆͌̓̂̀̌̆̓̾̂́̅͋̅̏͂̑̍̄͌̒̍͜͠͠͝͠o̴̧̫̦̍̓̋͝p̵̢̧̨̨̢̢̢̩͈̺̠̞͍̺̪̦̱͖̬̞̬͔̲̝̞̝̣̫͉̳͎̙̬͖̰̘̀́͆̎̒̈̅̈́̾͊̃͋̊̔̿͒͋̀̐́̊̀̊̃͑̈́̓͗̽̄͆̓͆́́̎̍̋͂͑̃̋́̂̀͂̕͜͝ͅ

[–] ZombieChicken@reddthat.com 4 points 5 hours ago

As I recall, only the first Crusade was endorsed by a Pope. And no, the teachings don't change, though the way things are phrased varies based on culture.

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Kind of yeah, one of the reasons for the pope existing. That's why they keep doing the whole voting thing

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