I agree, but the other guy is not marxist. Marx defined communism as a classless stateless society.
A more accurate term would have been lenninist or tankie
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Did Marx not advocate a vanguard party?
No. Marx advocated for a party and the takeover of the state by socialist/communist parties, but not a vanguard party. The idea of a vanguard party was very much centered around the Bolshevik/Menshevik split, with Lenin and the Bolsheviks advocating for a then-radical idea of a small core of Very Ideologically Correct revolutionaries giving marching orders to the masses; while the Mensheviks advocated for the then-more-traditionally-accepted Marxist position that a socialist movement is not just for the masses, but also by the masses.
The core distinction between Marxist Communism and Anarcho-Communism is essentially that Marx believes you have to take over (or create) a state first in order to suppress the economic conditions that lead to elite concentration of power, and only then can the state be done away with. Anarcho-Communists believe that the intermediate position of taking over the state is unnecessary, that it can be abolished directly in the same stroke as the revolution occurs.
There are often other quibbles too - such as whether economic development is a necessary prerequisite for a modern stateless society.
Communism is when bureaucracy and starvation, anarchism fixes this by strawmanning and having no solid theory
Anarchy is when one person decides it would be funny to take all the bread and throw it in the ocean because it would be funny and notjing says they can't and everyone starves anyway.
Nah, Marxism-Leninism is when bureaucracy and starvation. Clearly you haven't been reading theory.
You're wrong, marxism-leninism is when you do capitalism and call it socialism, and regardless of the name it has very little to do with and often directly opposes marxism
when you do capitalism
So, bureaucracy and starvation?
I mean kinda, but the thing with capitalism is that there's no bureaucracy directing the production, you produce a commodity and kinda hope there's a demand for it and it sells, else you go bust. A true anarchy of markets, if you will.
"My dictator is better than your dictator" thats what you sound like
Totally inaccurate. Not everyone starves, just the undesirables. Party leaders will be just fine! /s
Can't starve if you've been purged!
Nathan, being brutal as usual. 🤟
everyone just starves.
Metal.
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And the farmer relies on the bread the bakery makes so they can continue to produce the wheat.
...what I'm failing to understand is where the bankers factor in... >.>
They're essential for pulling the plough!
...what I'm failing to understand is where the bankers factor in... >.>
They factor into the hole on the platform while the rope tightens on the neck
That's right, the billionaire goes into the square hole!