The P in PEMDAS just means resolve what's inside the parentheses first. After that, it's just simple multiplication with adjacent terms, and multiplication and division happen together left to right.
6÷2(1+2)
6÷2(3)
3(3)
9
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The P in PEMDAS just means resolve what's inside the parentheses first. After that, it's just simple multiplication with adjacent terms, and multiplication and division happen together left to right.
6÷2(1+2)
6÷2(3)
3(3)
9
This is actually a generational thing. Millennials were taught “PEMDAS”:
But younger generations have been taught “BEDMAS” instead:
Notably, Division and Multiplication are swapped on PEMDAS and BEDMAS, to make this “both happen at the same time” more straightforward. But that only applies if the entire operation can happen at the same time.
For instance, let’s say 6/2(3) compared to 6÷2(3). At first glance, they both appear to be the same operation. But in the former, the 6 dividend would be over the entire 2(3) divisor. Which means you would need to simplify the divisor (by resolving the multiplication of 2•3) before you divide. So the former would simplify to 6/6=1, while the latter would divide first and become 3(3)=9.
Technically, if you wanted to be completely clear, you would write it using multiple parenthesis as needed. For instance, you would write it as either:
(6÷2)(3)=9 or 6÷(2(3))=1 to avoid the ambiguity. Then it wouldn’t matter if you’re using PEMDAS or BEDMAS.
But in the former, the
6dividend would be over the entire2(3)divisor.
I have never heard of or seen an example of anyone using / and ÷ in different ways. If you want multiple terms in your divisor, either write it as a large fraction with all relevant terms in the dividend or divisor, or use parentheses. This just seems like sloppy notation to me.
The slash was just because MarkDown doesn’t really make mathematical notation easy. The point is that with a slash, the 6 is over the entire 2(3) divisor. It’s the difference between these:

You can even see that the automatic solution (in yellow) parses the two differently. In the first example, it correctly resolves the 2(3) first, because you should always simplify both the top and the bottom as much as possible before you resolve the division. But in the second, it parses the 6÷2 first, because it is left ambiguous. The slash is literally the horizontal bar, putting the dividend above the entire divisor. Except it’s in a single line, instead of taking up three lines of text for a single operation.
I don’t think I ever used a divide symbol like that beyond elementary school. In practice always use fraction style notation for division because it’s not ambiguous or a gotcha.
This is the correct answer and it drives me crazy how often this comes up.
As another user commented, division and subtraction are just syntactic flavor for multiplication and addition, respectively. Division is a specific type of multiplication. Subtraction is a specific type of addition.
And so there is a reason mathematicians do not use the division symbol (➗): it is ambiguous as to which of the following terms are in the divisor and which are part of the next non-divisor term.
In other words, the equation as written is a lossy representation of whatever actual equation is being described.
tl;dr: the equation as written provides insufficient information to determine the correct order of operations. It is ambiguous notation and should not be used.
division and subtraction are just syntactic flavor for multiplication and addition
Can you tell me a bit more about how you mean this? I searched a bit but only basic primary school level resources about the relationship between addition and subtraction came up.
Do you mean like subtraction is just adding a negative number, and division is just multiplication by the inverse of a number? In that case I don’t really see how it simplifies things much because negatives and inverses still need as much definition. Or are you talking about bit-wise operations like a computer would use to do these things?
I believe they do mean the fact that subtraction is just adding the negative and division is just multiplying by the inverse. You can look up field axioms to see how real arithmetic is really defined. It's much more convenient to have two operations instead of four.
Addition asks "What do you get when you combine these two numbers?"
Subtraction asks "What do you need to combine with this number to get this result?"
Multiplication asks "What do you get if you add this number to itself this many times?"
Division asks "How many times do you need to add this number to itself to get this result?"
In many ways, all of these operations are syntactic flavor for addition. Subtraction is addition in reverse. Multiplication is repetitive addition. Division is repetitive addition in reverse. Exponents are recursive repetition of repetitive addition. And so on.
Look into the axiomatic proof of 1+1=2. It will shed some light on how mathematics is just complex notation for very, very simple concepts at scale.
The other commenter is correct, but another way to think or visualize is that any subtraction or division operation can be understood as an addition or multiplication.
X - 5 = X + (-5)
X / 5 = X * (1/5)
You can think of subtraction and division not being distinct or separated from addition and multiplication; instead, they're just a shortcut notation in mathematics because everyone was tired of having to write extra characters.
Figuratively, at least.
The real answer is "what's the fucking context for how these numbers are being used?"
If it's "just as written on a test" I think asking for clarification on order would be accepted.
If it's an actual context of some kind then that alone dictactes the way you solve it.
Can't quickly come up with a word problem for this one though.
I was taught to do
There should be a fucking ISO for this shit tbh
The ÷ symbol is a bane of mankind
I was taught not to write like this so we dont have to deal with this shit 😊
Use unambiguous notation
It's 9 if you actually understand PEMDAS
I was taught BEDMAS in school, so slightly different order. I was also taught that DM and AS are not specifically in that order, but rather left to right of the equation, in the same lesson. I’m not sure why some schools aren’t doing it that way.
I’m guessing confusion is coming from those taking PEMDAS literally as that order? Rather than PE(M|D)(A|S), like it’s supposed to be?
It's also because writing multiplication without a symbol creates a tightly bound visual unit that is typically evaluated before other things. If you see an exercise like, "what is 4x²/2x" most people answer "2x" not "2x³". But this convention is rarely taught explicitly, so it's ripe for engagement bait.
There's a reason why the conventional division symbol requires grouping its terms.
If you see an exercise like that, the exercise is bad and your teacher must be educated. Now, try putting that into a computer language and see what comes out.
tightly bound visual unit
I think you nailed it on the head. The expression isn't technically ambiguous, there's exactly one solution, and neither is the notation incorrect, just unconventional. In this case though, forgoing convention makes the expression typographically misleading. Hence a reason why we have these conventions for writing out expressions in the first place: to visually reinforce the order of operations thereby making expressions as easy to read as possible. So it's not written wrong per se, just unnecessarily confusingly.
BODMAS
I can’t tell if this is trolling or not, but O = Orders lol
You're right but when I was taught this in grade four we were taught Of, I guess Orders was probably a bit above 10 year Olds.