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Looks like both the feds and state law enforcement / intelligence agencies are tracking the Zizians now.

WIRED: Anti-Tech Extremism

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

While the Zizian ideology is extremist in nature,** a less extreme version of the same fears surrounding the cataclysmic potential of AI are a common concern among AI alignment experts, machine learning engineers, and even frontier AI companies**. Nonetheless, the Intelligence Bureau warns that "paranoid views regarding AI" may proliferate in the aftermath of the Zizians' trial, thanks to their "attempt to reason the belief that a godlike incarnation of AI is imminent," and belief that "humans must best use their time in the present to devote themselves to ensuring its compliance with human morality, or face existential consequences for failing to do so."

And so on and so forth, a good part of the article is about how the feds are afraid that once the trial gets going basically people will think Ziz is making too much sense and anti-AI-infrastructure violence escalates.

Yud, despite his near-infinite IQ, will apparently be the last one to suspect that grassroots organized violence is an incredibly obvious short-term solution to the alleged problem he's spent most of his life beating the drum about.

And let's not forget that ridiculous AI2027 assertion that people who are faced with almost certain annihilation should not pursue extreme uncooperative actions.

[–] lurker@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ah, that one AI2027 blog post where they tried to convince people not to commit terrorism by opening the article by talking about how man’s fate may be sealed in two years time. Incredibly smart idea.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

The whole title of Yuds book also isnt going to help.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It helps that most of their audience seems incapable of considering that non-market driven societal change could be possible, better spend a fuckton of philanthropy money to buy a castle in case it helps indoctrinate a John Galt type to argue AI safety on our behalf, that'll solve everything.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

they have been watching spacey odessey one too many time.

[–] lurker@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This new effort follows President Donald Trump's National Security Presidential Memo 7, which instructs the Department of Justice to target anyone holding “anti-American,” “anti-Christian,” and "anti-capitalism” beliefs.

well this whole read was a reminder about how much of an AI bootlicker Trump is.

[–] meltedcheese@c.im 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@lurker I don’t understand what “target” means in this context. Is there a crime to be investigated? As far as I know, you can’t be prosecuted for beliefs.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

They literally jailed a guy for making light of Charlie Kirk's bullet related mishap in social media, and a group of pro-palestine protestors winning their case after months of trials is still fresh on the news.

So you most certainly can be prosecuted.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Counting or not counting prosecutions that end with the defendent vindicated and almost a million dollars richer?

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure it counts, getting out of indeterminate time pre-trial holding with a payout after the state has charged you with a felony is a hell of a dice roll, compared to the alternative of not exercising free speech in the first place.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

Also this only works as long as the legal system isnt taken over.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

yeah not every defendant has the resources to contact the right legal help to get the detention overturned or compensated

like, say you get held without bond for 2 or 3 weeks, then released, you might lose your job or miss paying rent or any number of other real world effects, this has an obvious chilling effect on speech

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

Sadly due to a large increase of crime the time until your case will go to trial has increased to ... three years

... five years

... ten years

... thirty years

... a hundred years ...

In the mean time, make yourself useful to society by working in jail to earn your keep.

[–] meltedcheese@c.im 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@Architeuthis That’s crazy. What’s the crime?

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

the anarchist in the audience sitting on the edge of their seat

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

Posting memes about the killing on facebook apparently: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/a-tennessee-man-was-jailed-over-his-charlie-kirk-social-media-comments-now-hes-won-a-835000-settlement

The Palestine Action stuff was in the UK, my bad.