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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] join@lemmy.ml 89 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I read some dutch news articles on this, and the propaganda is just insane. They all just quote the police spokesperson:

“The woman was pulled after which she fell to the ground”

“The police wanted to act quickly in a dynamic situation”

“The video only shows a part of the story”

“We have to look at the exact order of events”

But the good news: the police is gonna do an internal investigation.

The police is just a legal gang that protects the property rights of the elite.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"We have opened an investigation. Please stop asking questions"

6 months later:

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago

The video only shows a part of the story”

There is many of those idiots on lemmy in fuckinginsanevideos. It is always used stricly when it is about Palestine

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

“The video only shows a part of the story”

Do people really eat up that shit? Even if she was making threats for example, that's still not an acceptable escalation to throw her onto the floor like that.

The guy was probably used to treating his wife like that when she talks back, classic.

[–] Heyting@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago

A few months ago there was a video of a Dutch police officer kicking a hijabi woman in the stomach without provocation. The police “investigated” itself and concluded that the violence was justified. There is no accountability for police there.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 104 points 6 days ago (18 children)

What the actual fuck? The dude with the dog needs to be brought up in charges, and the rest need to be suspended. That was completely uncalled for.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 50 points 6 days ago

Just thought he'd cause a fucken miscarriage because a pregnant woman shoo'd away another pig's grip.

[–] Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club 10 points 6 days ago

No charges. Baldy needs to be hanged and stoned.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Is there anyplace in the world that doesnt have lowest common denominators just itching to brutalize and murder in positions of law enforcement?

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

If you want to know what kind of people will be in a job, on average, consider what the job incentivizes and how that might appeal to the motives of different kinds of people.

Law enforcement ostensibly promotes an image of community service and protection. So you will find people that wish to do those things seeking to become police officers.

But the reality is that police work itself, policies, and legal protections for officers is far more focused on the state sanctioned use of force, the strict adherence to laws for citizenry but far more lax enforcement on officers themselves, and the authority of command given to officers in interactions with them. So for someone who wants to posture as a tough guy, to dominate over people with legal authority, to commit acts of violence with little, if any, consequence for themselves or recourse for he victim, and to remain in good standing in much of society because of the aforementioned promoted image, it serves those desires too.

And due to the us vs them mentality, the lack of liability, and the tight community formed just within law enforcement and those who work directly with them (prosecutors/DAs, judges, mayors, etc) that do not hold each other accountable unless they do something to violate that community (like reporting abuse of authority, excessive force, gross negligence, etc. on fellow officers), then the police culture itself incentives pushing out the cops with good intentions that may stir up "trouble" in the community in favor of those who will allow or actively propagate corruption and collusion.

If a job incentivizes and/or protects aggression, violence, and pretty crime, don't be shocked when it's full of aggressive, violent, petty criminals.

[–] EvasiveSpecies@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Male bullies become cops, female bullies become nurses" is something I hear often and it makes sense. Power over vulnerable people attracts these specimen. Are ALL in these professions like that? Of course not but probably a higher average than in other fields.

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[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 73 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 6 days ago

I was going to say, you can say that again, so I will!

ACAB

[–] texture@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I've seen so many police brutality videos. They never get easier. Fuck.

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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago

ACAB applies globally

[–] grue@lemmy.world 51 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Attempted murder of the fetus by the cop and justified defense of other by the husband.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 6 days ago

Literally fuck all cops everywhere.

[–] Brummbaer@pawb.social 44 points 6 days ago (7 children)

The EU is not far from the US in many aspects. The actions are just more subtile and the propaganda is better.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 days ago

Yep, EU jingoism is on the rise. There's unfortunately quite a lot of it here on Lemmy. It reminds me of the tankies - America bad so EU must be good.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I thought the Dutch were the reasonable ones

Did I see one of those cops yanking on the woman's hair? Jesus, buddy

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

The A stands for "all" not "American".

[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Cops are cops and Dutch cops are horrible cunts as well

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Authoritarian tendencies are not confined by national borders. They can emerge through institutions, political movements, and social attitudes that concentrate power, discourage dissent, or weaken accountability. Because such tendencies can become more difficult to address once entrenched, they should be recognized and challenged early through lawful, democratic means.

Public officials who abuse their authority should face timely accountability through transparent processes that respect due process and the rule of law.

Organizations should also be cautious of developing insular "good old boy" networks or cultures where loyalty is valued above fairness, competence, or transparency. Such environments can foster groupthink, favoritism, and an unhealthy us-versus-them mentality.

Healthy institutions depend on accountability, openness to criticism, and a willingness to apply the same standards to allies and opponents alike.

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[–] lena@gregtech.eu 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Fucking pieces of shit. Lowest of the low. I hope he lives a miserable life and dies alone.

The guys with the police dogs are always so twitchy and violent. It's like they absorb their own dog's attack training.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago

ACAB Everywhere

[–] liking625@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

what kind of soulless piece of scum can throw a pregnant woman to the floor risking an abortion? Hope the worst for that subhuman.

[–] Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club 25 points 6 days ago (7 children)

This is insane what the fuck. Thank god I left that shithole.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 5 days ago

Weapons, dogs, tons of power, and the only way this Neanderthal can think to handle the situation is to throw a greatly pregnant woman violently to the ground.

ACAB Everywhere.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are the Dutch hiring ICE agents or a football hooligans?

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago

Ofcourse there will be no accountability. If there was they wouldn't be able to fill their ranks with people that have fragile egos who are ok with following any order so long as they can compansate for their lack of personality by beating people with out any consequences.

She refused an order, time to throw her around like a rag doll. ACAB.

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