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[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 47 minutes ago

They should've thought about before they puffed metric tonnes of NOx into our lungs.

[–] Lectral@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

I'm waiting for a used EV. I've never bought a new vehicle and have no desire to.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

It's not really a matter of realizing what's better. It's about what is cheaper.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (6 children)

That's what I think. EVs aren't functionally equivalent to ICE cars yet - most of them can't go as far between fillups, and they take longer to fill up. Those are steadily improving. But the cost benefits are there. Back in 2013 when I bought my Leaf I went from spending $1800/year on gas to $300/year on electricity, and in 12 years my only maintenance costs were windshield wiper blades and a set of tires - which I would have needed with a gas car. But no oil changes, tuneups, no filters, belts or hoses, no spark plugs. No radiator problems, starter problems, pump replacements. I mean it's almost like not having a car at all, except you have a car.

[–] mal3oon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

My only gripe with EVs is repairability, and the inevitable enshittification of their software, and all the issue that spun from it, like ads and what not. Heck we can't even have a decent "open source" friendly phone, let alone EV. This will become a major issue unless well regulated and I hope the EU steps up. I wish we can have a mechanical, open-source EV.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 minutes ago

Don't worry, they enshittify software in cars that have an ICE under the hood too.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago

The difference is (as long as its not self-driving) EVs are stupidly simple devices. They have less technology than smart phones. It would be great to have regulation to force standardization and open-source firmware, but genuinely we already have plenty of software and controllers capable of fully handling any EV, VESC being the most popular example of this.

And yes that controller both handles electric aircraft and RC cars. Because EVs don't really differ from the model scale to the extremely large scale.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I had my 2013 Leaf for 12 years and nothing got enshittified, if that's any comfort.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think the problems tend to be overplayed. For most people the BEV is as good as the ICE vehicle. They have a range in excess of 300km with most above 400km, further for city driving. Charging is at night so it is only those longer trips where charging is more inconvenient. I’ve modified my hasty lifestyle a bit to actually enjoy a coffee while charging on those few trips to the big smoke.

[–] freely1333@reddthat.com 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Default assumptions of home ownership

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sadly you do need somewhere to plug it in.

[–] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 1 points 27 minutes ago

I tried to get my job to setup outlets. I just wanted a 120V regular plug. Anything helps when your car is just sitting there. They said no. I told a Doc who had just bought an EV they won't even tap in to the existing light wiring to add 120V. 3 months later 12 spots with level 2 charging. Since i work 12hr shifts, I try to space my days so I can charge up for free and won't need a charge for a day or 2 depending on how much I drive.

I also carry an extension cord and park near an outlet on those rare occasions I eat out. No one cares. Maybe management, but its " I'm sorry.i didn't know I couldn't do that." Act embarrassed pay for my meal and quickly leave. It's like siphoning gas out of company vehicles. Fuck em.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

And they won't need to cheat their emissions tests with evs

Also article quotes an executive but no labor leaders

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

Hey did you hear that 90 years ago they made things for the nazis wtf

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