Even the greatest most infallible gun detection system imaginable can be defeated by having the gun inside a plastic bag.
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So once again the United States has attempted a complicated technical solution to a legal problem.
Why don't you just implement safe gun laws. You don't even have to ban people from owning guns, although that would be a good idea. You just need to have basic background checks on gun purchases.
But then we can't have draconian ass surveillance funded by Epstein Predators, oh the horror!
Background checks are good, but they aren't a solution to school shootings. Those are almost all parents giving kids guns or having shitty storage practices.
Perhaps a tendency not to give your kids guns would be part of the background check, other countries managing.
Using AI to stop school shootings it the type of idiot idea Sasha Baron Cohen would get a tech bro to unironically support. So much news these days feels like black comedy or satire
Not quite right. These types of ideas have existed for quite some time and have been used many many times in warfare by US military+allies. This was one of the core things that necessiated a company like palantir.
The only caveat is that, historically when these systems failed, it usually killed brown people which nobody really care about. Take the example of school bombing in iran or gaza genocide.
The problem is that the tolerance for error in warfare is always very high, anything can be written as "collatoral". But even a small error (like one kid dying) is too much inside a state.
That's why palantir in non military settings is disasterous.
TLDR: AI did better than expected, the problem was that, a white kid in USA died rather than a brown one in a third world country.
Ive been hearing SBC having been acting weird politically recently, hes apparently a very pro-zionist.
I am so tired of AI being shoved into everything and then people surprised when it doesn’t work. There’s no AI I think that could have detected a small firearm easily concealed. Hell as it is with legal concealed carry you can’t tell who is legally carrying as it is even with some of the most observant eyes watching.
People (and by this I mean the company) keep think that AI can give actual answers. It can't. It's a non-detrrminustic system, but they want it to behave deterministically. I'm sure the engineers gave the probability stats up to the business and marketing, who then immediately lowered their pants and shit on them, and then rolled it out as the perfect amazing product
The people who profit from this company don’t think that. They think that dumb school administrators think that, and will spend money on it.
Wasn't there also a separate incident of a kid holding a harmless item (food?) that an AI system tagged as a gun?
Bananas are not joke.
A tactical banana can absolutely change the outcome of many scenarios.
Monty Python debunked this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuVudN_BDjQ
Wow my apologies for spreading such uneducated misinformation. The evidence presented in your documentary is irrefutable.
Sage advice shared by a lowly plumber
I keep a couple of ripe ones on hand at all times in case of a home invasion type situation.
My drunk ass read that as homie invasion and frankly that makes more sense anyways.
Oops, both companies are suddenly restructured under new ownership (a baby new llc) so now there's nobody to sue.
Watch and see.
Can’t wait for this be LLM run companies with 100% ownership by humans, so there’s no liability but the board controls everything.
Why is this any better than a metal detector?
Asking the real questions here. My guess would be: they didn't have metal detectors, the metal detectors they had reached end-of-life, or preexisting metal detectors failed to integrate into a modern, unified surveillance system. And so the use of AI analytics tools, atop (preexisting) camera systems seemed more hassle-free (a subscription-based software integration) and cost-effective in the short term; that is if the unproven compromise bares any trust...
Metal detectors in schools are dystopian and nobody who works in a school wants them.
Metal detectors in schools are dystopian
Sounds like they fit right in in the country where children are regularly and routinely murdered while at school and society at large is ok with it.
@Passerby6497@lemmy.world @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br If you install multiple gates side-by-side, and let students leave any metal objects in their lockers, I don't think it's that restrictive. But in my country of residence these cases are so rare, considering these systems is a first for me, so I'm by no means an expert.
This is the logical endpoint of technology capitalism. Even authority figures have so many constant draws on their attention? And so many suffer from un-or-under-diagnosed attention issues, coupled with constant and unrelenting anxiety about performance and about the world around them collapsing, that “outsource thinking so that I have less of it to do” is the hot new commodity
Metal detectors are a logistical nightmare in a school
Worse than getting shot?
How much of the time do they stop you getting shot?
On average, yes.
Didn't that guy did an AMA on Reddit years ago? Kinda remember something like this being dunked on as another surveillance company trying to cash out on school shootings
Soon: ai not meant to detect guns or prevent shootings, read fine print Court: OK cool, case dismissed
Next up: "AI has no duty to protect and serve"
I guarantee their contract already has a legal disclaimer for this exact scenario.
Not hot dog