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[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It was obvious from beginning that the excitement over ARM Macs was short sighted. Major hack jobs will continually require hacking around things. It's inevitably going to break. There will be unforseeably long periods of downtime. There always be periods of being to not upgrade yet. There will be unforeseen issues that cause this or that feature to be broken. It will always be buggy. It will always be X% working but we just need a few more breakthroughs (which never come). It's always Soon(TM).

Inevitably one of the main contributors will move on and the project dies. At best the X% working sees a major reduction. The next significant breakage results in much longer or indefinite period of time to find a new hack.

I was laughing at the talk about how Apple is being cooperative or whatever. Let's see Apple post the hardware reference manuals. Cooperative is being open.

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

This is bad, but also we're less than a week into a developer preview build here, we might want to hold our horses for a moment

[–] db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

Fix: Create another partition from macOS 27, install older macOS version, boot into it and change startup volume back to Asahi

[–] somegeek@programming.dev 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

I remember I told one of the asahi devs (lina?) How shitty apple is and how they try to make it as hard as possible for them to make a linux that runs on apple computers. they got triggered, told me this is not the case and apple is very cooperative, then blocked me on mastodon.

guess they like the arrangement.

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I used to work for an apple reseller.

Apple devs were fairly normal people and were totally honest with us during developer training. I would happily have a beer with them

Some Apple sales managers were absolute cocks though. One of them treated me like an idiot one week in front of customers when I defended windows on Mac, and the next week, he was talking like he was a genius and repeated every argument I made the week before.

Apple talks lots of s*** about Linux. Absolutely don't buy an Apple if you want a Linux system. The Asahi devs deserve a lot of respect though

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This sounds like you were harassing a volunteer dev that had an actual direct interaction with a corporation based on hearsay and they rightfully blocked a troll that wasn't contributing anything meaningful or constructive to the project.

[–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 points 12 minutes ago

Social media is for socializing. They posted something in the lines of "we can't get graphics to work properly" and I sympathized with them about how hard it must be dealing with apples' dick moves.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 10 points 14 hours ago

Some people like being in abusive relationships it seems.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Taking a leaf out of Microsoft's book, I see

[–] toor@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I tried dual booting for a very short time ~20 years ago (oh man...) Every time Windows would obliterate my grub config/mbr and I'd have to dig up instructions to reconfigure grub from live cd. Never again.

[–] qupada@fedia.io 10 points 17 hours ago

Back in those (pre-UEFI) days it was quite easy to add GRUB to the Windows boot manager instead.

You'd wind up with a menu entry that Windows would usually leave alone, unlike its aggressive reinstallation overwriting GRUB.

Once UEFI came along, it became easier to give each OS an entire disk with no connections between them, and use the BIOS as the boot menu.

Or, y'know, just give Windows the flick and only run Linux 😉

[–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a beta…they fix bugs to get asahi booting all the time. This isn’t new.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Sure but what if I already hate Apple and this article validates my feelings?

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

That's what I'm saying (!)

[–] vogi@piefed.social 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Read it as "Apple's boot licker" wouldn't expect anything else from them.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago
[–] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 10 points 18 hours ago

Nice to see a corporation show some fear towards a community project.

Been very happily living in Asahi for the last few weeks. It's buggy, but totally usable for a daily driver. So usable that I'm tempted to obliterate the macOS partition entirely.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

congratulations, you played yourself