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[–] nbsp@programming.dev 4 points 34 minutes ago

nice IPO you have there.

it'd be a real shame if something were to happen to it.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago
[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 52 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Dean Ball, a former White House official who contributed to the AI Action Plan the administration issued in the summer of 2025, said in a post on X that the order suggests all "non-Americans" would be restricted from using ⁠Anthropic's latest ​models, including those based in the U.S.

"This means you should expect to have to prove your citizenship to use Anthropic ​models," Ball said.

There is the real reason, folks.

Yet another effort to force mandatory ID checking to access a website.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Not just a website, how can a company prove that a “non-American” isn’t using an API?

[–] elgordino@fedia.io 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They can’t and Anthropic have disabled it for US users too.

Though that’s perhaps, in part, to get the govt to change its mind.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 hours ago

But also even if they can, they can't implement it in 5 seconds or even a week, but the order takes effect immediately. So there's absolutely no other choice in the short term.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago

Shove AI into everything and make everything require constant validation. I'm sure someone will also sell the solution to this constant validation.

I have a feeling I'll be completely done with the Internet in 5 years.

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Oh, it's simple (but a total invasion of privacy): they use the same Age Check validation needed by Sony/PlayStation/whatever, but now you need to upload your passport or birth certificate, and take a picture of yourself. The API access token will be created under the name of that account owner.

...and don't think for a moment that even if you are "eligible" to use this, Anthropic won't be building a profile on you based on whatever sensitive information you provide (ya, know - to make a better UX. Trust me, bro /s).

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago

That's the thing isnt it. It's forcing AI companies to shut them down and only provide them to people the US government has a deal with, themselves and the elites.

We cant have power to the people.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Seems like a good policy to give non US AI companies a boost whilst also causing a US recession, given a large chunk of the US economy is currently being propped up by the AI bubble.

Wasn't one of the results of the failed 90s encryption export controls, that as a result, other strong encryption schemes were created elsewhere and kneecapped the advantage that the US previously held in that area

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 53 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

Yea I hope this spurs more investment into Chinese llm labs, or really any country doing open models (pretty much only china). The united states like normal cannot be a trusted and reliable partner. I'm also against lobotomizing llms in general In the name of "safety".

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Trump admin is masterful at own goals. They are the Wayne Gretzky of own goals.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago

I hope they cut off all access to US-AI to foreign countries, because that would mean, I don't have to fucking deal with it anymore.

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Oh no. That will hurt Anthropic's projected revenue. Won't someone please think of the shareholders?

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

This is hype to make them sound badass.

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly, I doubt it would have any meaningful impact.

Instead, it'll be marketed as "Fable 5: it's so good, the U.S. government won't share it (...but yours now, for the low monthly payment of 20 dollars + plus your ID and your families)

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They weren't going to let people have it that cheap for very long. The plan was to offer it on subscription plans for a couple weeks, then move to usage-based billing, which is much more expensive for a usage pattern that comes anywhere near the subscription limits.

Keeping a single instance of Fable busy for a full day would probably cost a thousand dollars at standard API rates, and some agentic coding workflows run many agents in parallel. Companies have just recently started to figure out that rewarding employees for how many tokens they use may be a waste of money, but Anthropic is hoping to cash in before they all do.

[–] ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Any company that only recently figured this out deserves to go bankrupt.

It's like giving people company cars and rewarding them for using the most gas. Only that driving somewhere is at least sometimes required.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 58 minutes ago

You're absolutely right!

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Good metrics are hard, but token leaderboards are obviously terrible metrics that will lead to bad business outcomes unless propped up by investor hype. Of course investor hype is a real factor, and it's often driven by guesses about what other investors will do rather than real business outcomes.