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[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 91 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Alternative path: become an online grifter, make millions from being a degenerate, eventually get outed as a pedophile, convert to Christianity/Islam, profit!

[–] meejle@piefed.world 18 points 4 days ago

Ahh the Russell Brand pipeline

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I hear this is the path to become president.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you want to get yelled at by a toxic boomer with a hard hat or do you want to get yelled at by a toxic boomer in a suit?

At least as far as the hard hat goes that depends on the trade. So many are so short handed that companies will practically suck dick to keep even shit employees. Toxic boomer managers in those trades tend to see their entire crew quit and find another job down the street practically overnight.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Major in engineering and do both

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 40 points 4 days ago

there's a couple of jobs where you get to do both!

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 29 points 4 days ago (4 children)

i'll take the excel, but i'm making some scripts to automate some shit so i can screw around at least half the time

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I remember when I thought being more efficient would result in less work.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The trick is to not let anyone know you're being too efficient. Automate an 8-hour job down to a minute, say you finished it in 7.

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[–] adarza@piefed.ca 12 points 4 days ago

you must'a made the mistake of finishing something early or showing-off your 'optimizations'

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The trick is to tell absolutely nobody then poke your mouse every few mins to make Teams think you're still online while playing games or reading. Or so I'm told.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (8 children)

2 smart guys apply for an IT position: do you hire the reliable, hard working guy who never takes sick leave, or the lazy guy?

Always hire the lazy guy. They will go out of their way to find a better way to do the same fucking task so they can go back to being lazy.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If both guys are smart, the hard working guy will find a better way to do the tasks and use the extra time to do other work.

The hard working guy will likely spend more time validating that the automation works correctly while the lazy guy won't. Checking every detail, tracking down the source of any issues and fixing them so they won't occur again is a lot of work. The lazy guy doesn't do that.

What the lazy guy does could be done by an LLM, what the hard working guy does can't be.

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[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Worked in oil and gas, we dealt with spreadsheets. One coworker had a tumor that looked like a neck pillow. He couldn't stop working because healthcare in the US requires you to have a job.

Trades pay a lot to look like tough guys and trades sell that tough guy image to sell the job for less than it's worth.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 33 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Don't underestimate the health risk of sitting.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 40 points 4 days ago

Yeah but “just stand occasionally” is much easier than “don’t breath or get anything on your skin for 40 years”

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

While this is true, the risks from sitting pale in comparison to the risks of industrial work. Also, they can be easily mitigated. You can't mitigate the damage done in an industrial setting much.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

fr. I have issues because of this, even though I've incorporated a standing desk for a decade.

you gotta actually move to make up for a sedentary job

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I worked construction and plant shutdowns when I was young. By the time I was in my mid twenties I had quit and went in to IT. The reason was simple. During my time in a union over ten of the old timers had died of cancer and other related illnesses. Only one of them was in their sixties. Over half were under forty. One of the best friends I will ever have died when he was fifty four. A month or so shy of when he was going to take early retirement.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When I was a student, I wasn't really motivated and didn't have any idea what to do with my life. But then I worked as a window cleaner during the summer holidays and that gave me a very clear idea about what I didn't want to do with my life.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sort of related, in my last year and a half of HS I started a commercial electrician assistant program which was supposed to be like an accelerated apprenticeship path. I kind of liked it, and it legitimately the best pay available to a 17 year old at the time, but it was the master electrician I worked with who convinced me to quit and go get an EE degree instead. I distinctly remember the conversation where he asked me how old I thought he was, and I guessed he was close to 60, nearing retirement. He was 43, and he'd fallen off a ladder a year earlier, which was why I was doing all work over 8' for him way fucking beyond what your typical HS assistant would normally be doing. "Go to college" he told me. "I chose this instead of Mechanical Engineering and now I can't do the job anymore, with 20 years to retirement."

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why not do both and become a farmer?

[–] picnic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

I used to work (well still do, occasionally) at an engineering workshop, and many of those who worked in production, returned back to school, studied a few years and applied back for the office job.

And those are great employees, they usually know their shit and appreciate the office work, still understanding whats it like at the production side.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

None of you have gotten high off acetone fumes and it shows

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 15 points 4 days ago (29 children)

This is not a very convincing argument anymore: with AI, there'll only one path left soon. And it's not the one where you sit on your ass in front of a computer all day.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

Llms can't even do math. And odds on them figuring that "highly complicated" technology out before the bubble bursts seems low.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago (6 children)

It's crazy that no one has integrated them with a graphing calculator, spreadsheets, symbolic logic software, etc., in order to increase their deterministic reasoning capacity.

Like, human brains aren't just the language centers, so I don't know why the people trying to build an analogue haven't done more than merely trying to make the linguistic capacity more complex...

[–] errer@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I mean the poster above you is wrong, they use math tools internally now when you ask math questions. Very obvious in Gemini. Yes the raw LLM trying to autocomplete the answer to a math problem is gonna be wrong but that’s not the way they are used to solve problems like that anymore.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

The LLM has to choose to use the calculating tools. Gemini tried to do this one solo:

4 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 1+ 2 + 0 = 15

Tbf, it did four of these calculations, and 75% were correct.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 5 points 4 days ago

no way i’d want to drive on a bridge built on their supposed math

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[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 7 points 4 days ago

Some of them write and execute Python internally for stuff like that

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[–] cattywampus@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (4 children)

What about being a porn actor?

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

That’s covered by the “toxic fumes” part

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

AI can do that as well now. Anything digital or with computers is out now.

So off to the mines for as all. For our glorious overlords, of course.

[–] cattywampus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] WeeneyTodd@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

As a guy who used to work in soil remediation and now works in air quality monitoring, I say: why not both?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Post AI, you only can stare at a chat prompt if you're very lucky, and now you have to inhale even more toxic fumes for even longer, because your workplace's CEO have bribed Trump with a million dollar. Also the datacenter in your neighborhood is humming at night, and you're now supposed to entertain yourself by staring at Italian brainrot.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

at least you can wear forced air respirators for working with fumes

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, so you can while working with Excel

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

true. I had not considered that. I even wear it outside for allergies but I could probably wear it in the office so people get weirded out and dont talk to me

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