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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 3 points 8 hours ago

If I'm in my 90s suffering from a terrible ailment, science the fuck out of me. Want to see if meth and coke shoved in my ass makes me alert? For science.

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, pretty weird thing to do if there wasn't prior literature suggesting that dose. This demonstration (it wasn't a trial or experiment), doesn't really carry much scientific value, IMO.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

(Futurism has reached out to the authors about the woman’s ability to consent to the eyebrow-raising treatment given her state.)

This is a weird gripe and seems to be the main argument of the article, as this is true of all treatment of dementia and Alzheimers or truly any severely impaired mental state... which is why the person with power of attorney makes the decision.

That all aside it literally cannot hurt if the patient is truly in 'advanced stages of Alzheimer's' as that is a living hell that absolutely no one should suffer through. Even if it just acts as palliative care during experimentation it should be allowed.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

What pushes that gripe from weird to absurd is in their own words:

“Consent for the intervention was therefore provided by her legally authorized representative, who was also closely involved in her care and familiar with her medical condition.”

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Saying that it cant hurt isnt true though, for all you and me know, it could make that living hell you mentioned even more living.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

Best case scenario it alleviates symptoms, worst case they relive the same trip constantly until it wears off which at least from the anecdote appears to have not been a bad trip. Either way that's a better existence than being a five year old in a 80 year olds body one minute, and acutely lucid and aware of how little you have control of the next.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

5 grams is not that fucking crazy as a treatment. They make it sound like they force fed her a fucking ounce.

And apparently she showed tons of signs of recovery. Sounds like the article writer is much more of a piece of shit for judging doctors doing their fucking job

[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They also say 5 grams is over twice the normal rec dose. I've always known rec to be 3.5. 2.0 - 2.5 grams probably wouldn't even give more than minor visuals for most people.

I didn't see type of shroom, but I'm guessing cubes as they are the most common.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm assuming they mean psilocybe cubensis

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but wombat poop is funnier.

[–] 404found@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Was the recovery permanent? I'm too lazy to read the article so if you choose not to tell me then I'll never know the answer and I don't blame you.

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev -1 points 17 hours ago

Look for a documentary by "Belly of the Beast" about a US MD travelling to Cuba with his patients against travelling restrictions.

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nope. But NeuralCIM seems to be when continually prescribed. Questionable if the western world (especially the US) will ever have it, since it was developed in Cuba. At least Canada is conducting a clinical trial, rn.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At retirement you should be allowed.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I already had plans. This just provides solid reasoning.

[–] Maggie@thelemmy.club 1 points 17 hours ago

Gigantic dose to me sounds like her body weight....

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I would decibeli use a lot of mushrooms if I had Alzheimer's. Or not have it also.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I felt the same way when I read the initial article reporting on this study. It's like experimenting on prisoners. Like yeah, they'll agree to most anything but the conditions that produce that consent are suspect. Interesting results but rough ethically.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 10 hours ago

im willing to consent before alzhiemers hits for this treatment.