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If you're not familiar with the LEGO scandal, the tl;dw is that this YouTuber Reckless Ben (Ben Schneider) has been investigating a stolen set of LEGO worth ~$100-200k (depending on who you ask) and the local police dept and criminal justice system has been colluding with the criminals (all members of the local Mormon church) to get him to STFU. The long version is, very long. You can check his channel for more.

Previously the local police dept managed to get a warrant to raid Ben's rental home with guns drawn and arrest him, based on what is clearly fabricated evidence. Here they appear to have done it again to get access to his Google account.

The linked video is mirrored on Peertube and timestamped to the relevant section.

Ben does also provide a copy of the subpoena in the video but I cannot vouch for its' validity, and he has used placeholder evidence before, but that's neither here nor there.

Anyway, the part that was relevant to this community was that in the course of their investigation they subpoenaed Google, and Google handed over basically his entire life to them. I'm sure this was very useful in their investigation.

I don't necessarily blame Google here for complying with a subpoena, but the moral of the story is to stop giving Google your data, because everything you say and do can and will be used against you in a court of law, with or without legitimate justification, and the more stuff you give them, the more ammunition you're providing the prosecutor.

This is also not exclusive to Google. Anything not local, self-hosted or encrypted a la Proton can be subpoenaed and the provider will have to comply. It just so happens that Google probably has more information about literally everyone in the world than any other particular entity.

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[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The lesson here is not to trust Google or other non-encrypted storage with your stuff. There are email providers that are more protective of your stuff, but more than that: don't store everything in one place. That way if one account is compromised, not everything is exposed. And American companies are more likely to share your data than European ones.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

Yes I did say that but thank you for reiterating.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 0 points 16 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm not entirely clear on why this guy stuck out his neck so far over a situation that was never his to deal with in the first place.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 8 minutes ago

Its his job?

[–] BouteilleBrune@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

it would seem their whole legal system is as corrupt as their government

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

I live here, and yes, it's corrupt.

It has been for at least 50 years, now most of all. It's not as blatant as some countries re open bribery, but our "news" sources have been owned by the bourgeoisie since at least the 90s, every year they bought up more and more smaller, local news sources; now only a few remain, all firmly under control.

Abuses of power are rampant, just not reported often. So we have more room for Kanye coverage, two-page spread

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So is the youtuber the one who got his lego stolen? Or is he just a journalist reporting on this story?

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

He’s reporting on it and trying to help the victim get restitution.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 hours ago

Call Batman

[–] potate@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago

Damn, I hadn't heard about this but that video is a wild ride...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 42 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

Just as an fyi, if you'd self hosted your services, they would probably subpoena you, and you would be obligated to give them all your data from your own server, and if you'd refus, your be in deep, deep shit

It doesn't matter where you store data, if it's stored, it can be used

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And that’s where good encryption comes into play. At least in the US, (where this case is happening), they can compel you to turn over the encrypted data blob. But they can’t compel you to give them the password to access the data. Because forcing you to give up the password would violate your 5th amendment right to remain silent.

Also, they probably wouldn’t subpoena you and give you a chance to respond; they would just bust your front door down and take your server. You wouldn’t have an opportunity to peacefully turn the data over to them. Only the wealthy get subpoenas. The rest of us get no-knock search warrants, dead pets, (because cops will shoot any dogs that are present when they execute the warrant), and traumatized/injured/killed family members who happened to be home at the time.

[–] Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

they respected the lemon pound cake tho...

[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 3 hours ago

That's not correct

[–] TwistedTurtle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago

I imagine it'd still be preferable to make them go through you and your lawyer for that info, where you could still have some measure of control.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

You’re half right, in that ultimately they can compel you to hand over your data, but there is a higher bar to clear for them to get your personal data stored locally.

For one, they can’t compel you to turn over your data with a subpoena, they’d have to actually go in front of a judge and get a warrant.

[–] shrek_is_love@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

I think the real takeaway is to not put all your eggs in one basket, so they would need separate subpoenas.

Getting access to just his Google Account could contain Google Voice text messages, voicemails, and call history. Google search history, Google Maps location history, everything in Google Docs, Gmail, YouTube, and probably other stuff I'm forgetting. That's all with a single subpoena, which includes a lot of things irrelevant to the case.

[–] nitroemdash@lemmy.wtf 6 points 6 hours ago

Is this the same Provo that had the ugliest flag ever?

[–] Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I've been following this and he keeps making so many mistakes. Stop talking to the police, bro. Stop trying to get the shop owner on camera.

File lawsuits against the company (I know he tried and the cop refused to issue the summons illegally, so you do it again after filing a complaint against the police), and file every lawsuit possible outside of that district.

But that's not good views for YouTube. He just keeps giving them more ammunition to go after him.

[–] cunnililgus@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 hours ago

After he got forcibly muted by court I believe he finally spoke to lawyers and then he won pretty quick.

I suspect he was playing 4D chess, and decided to show what your chances are in the system if you play it by the book and alone, which most people who can't afford a lawyer would do, and what also the thieves relied on. They told the victim directly try to sue us and you'll end up paying more in lawyer costs.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Lawsuits do no good when they are invisible. He's exposed insane police and judge corruption that would be swept under the rug becuase of no exposure. If utah decides they dont like you or me, we would be fucked, in jail for made up lies, becuase we dont have millions of people watching.

Yes he has also done some dumb shit for sure.

[–] dasrael@lemmy.zip 11 points 8 hours ago

Some jack off corrupt podunk cop shop can clearly ubpoena your entire life if you piss off the wrong person, then fabricate charges or create circumstances to fuck your life. This is here, now. Reclaim your digital sovereignty from big tech...

[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 11 points 8 hours ago

the local police dept and criminal justice system has been colluding with the criminals (all members of the local Mormon church)

Sounds about on par for the corrupt, death cult religionists. Quick! Someone steal their magic underwear and ransom it back to them for the LEGOs!

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 26 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Given the US is currently rotting from the top down and the bottom up I wonder if this guy will get lucky and find some help from the middle that isn't yet so corrupt.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 18 points 11 hours ago

He has a civil rights lawyer with a youtube channel helping him on the criminal charges and has hired some other lawyer to help with the civil charges (hence the move for those to federal court). So he's getting there.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 80 points 15 hours ago

It’s good to have reminders of what is and isn’t private.

Google accounts aren’t “free”.

[–] Gamechanger@slrpnk.net 20 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Story is interesting, the video is a chaotic abomination of bad storytelling.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

Seems he wants to appeal to gen z and alpha iPad baby brain.

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[–] koniluum@lemmy.world 45 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yea I watched the video today and it was a good wake up for me to continue my process to move from google. I have started some time ago already but have been doing it in increments. I still have an android phone and moving away from it will be a pain.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 41 points 15 hours ago (16 children)

GrapheneOS is a dream, if you have a Pixel.

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