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[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 3 points 48 minutes ago
[–] Johanno@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Well the church fixed that now.

Children who die before they have a chance to be baptised are in heaven too.

But everyone else is going to hell if they do not praise god.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 41 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Christianity is an infohazard

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The basilisk problem. If you knew about it and didn't work to bring it about by telling more people about it then you are the enemy.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

i always found that creepypasta funny exactly because of that. bunch of atheists experiencing religious fears but with some words swapped lol

[–] erayerdin@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

lmao

all the abrahamic religions are cognitohazard. maybe, the reason why they're so engrained is cuz one said "shit, now that i've learned it, imma burn, why not spread this to others?"

[–] Cityshrimp@lemmy.world 40 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Da fuq? When I went to Christian school, they told me everyone who died without knowing Jesus go to hell. And I asked “how about babies?”, and they firmly told me “yes, they go to hell”

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Ah the loving and compassionate God, who sends you to hell if you haven't even heard of them.

[–] Furbag@pawb.social 1 points 3 minutes ago

He loves you unconditionally.... with some conditions.

[–] FukOui@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Some Christians believe they go to limbo or purgatory as they were not baptized

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 25 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I made a creature and then killed it before it had an opportunity to comprehend me and I'm offended by that so I'm going to torture it for eternity.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 31 minutes ago

- the good guy, supposedly

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago

Makes me think that this God fellow has a lot of trauma from its upbringing that needs to be worked through.

[–] daellat@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Good and merciful god that one.

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined

I’m not a fan of this no-freewill interpretation, but it’s a hell of lot clearer than Christian doctrine.

[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 25 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Back when I was a wee little shit, and the parents were ritualistically sacrificing my Sunday mornings to Sky Daddy & Super-J by dragging my ass to church: I recall our pastor actually addressing this. Idr the verse he referenced, but it boiled down your 'soul' or some shit being driven to god even if you haven't been exposed to him here on Earth. TLDR, even if you don't know, you still go to hell for being a dirty heathen, so good 'ol christians have a duty to go shove their shit down as many throats as possible to 'save' them.

Whether or not that's true to their lore, I have no idea - there are so many contradictions in that shit that you can basically make it say whatever you want.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 minutes ago

The lore is whatever you can twist into it. You already said it lol

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

good 'ol christians have a duty to go shove their shit down as many throats as possible to 'save' them.

Yyyyyyep.

My favorite was when I (white guy) lived in a neighborhood with a lot of majority-black churches, ladies would walk around on Sunday afternoons knocking on doors to “spread the news.” However, the second they saw me their faces would fall and they’d make a quick exit after a minimal pitch. It was obvious they were trying to recruit from the black community and my soul was not a priority to them. I’m sure it happens the other way around as well. Nothing against black people here.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (6 children)

In my experience, each flavor of Christianity handles this a little differently. IIRC the reason ~~the Mormons~~ Jehovah's Witnesses are extra aggressive about hounding your door is because they consider it an obligation to spread the good word, while there are other groups who just stay out of your business entirely.

WRT the quote, there's very little talk of heaven and hell at all in Lutheran churches in my experience, just as an example. Although I have only been exposed to the Norwegian state church, which is pretty laid back about most things, so your mileage may vary with other Lutheran churches.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Also, at least officially, the reason they baptize teenagers with the names of your dead ancestors is because they believe baptism of a physical body is necessary for salvation, AND that they will continue to pester said dead ancestors to convert to Mormonism in heaven’s waiting room.

If some random little shit who lied to his local bishop about cranking it three times a week will get dunked when they read the right name, apparently that helps with the backlog or something, and White Jesus really wants them to get right on that, I assume because his dad is up his ass about TPS Reports or something.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 85 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The actual answer is "I don't know, the Bible doesn't say."

The contradictions between doctrine and the Bible make so much more sense when you view it in the historical context of a tribal religion, as it was written, not as some kind of universal truth. The Bible doesn't say what happens to people who never hear about it because the writers weren't thinking about that.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (5 children)

Mathew 18:18 is the circuit breaker for those situations: whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven

AKA when in doubt, god defers to the Pope for some reason.

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[–] nightmare786@leminal.space 55 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (14 children)
[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What’s the name of that book?

[–] nightmare786@leminal.space 1 points 2 hours ago

It's from The Meme Machine by Susan Blackmore

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Indeed - as a writer I find holy texts fascinating for their endurance through viral properties. It seems important for them to speak at once with ultimate authority but also a lot of vagueness to keep the messages versatile for as many situations as possible and as unfalsifiable as possible.

They are the equivalent of a radioactive meteor that lands on an unwitting planet and spreads a plague.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago
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