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A gun tackle has a single pulley in both the fixed and moving blocks with 2 rope parts dividing the load of 100N. The mechanical advantage is 2, requiring a force of only 50N to lift the load.

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[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[–] lemmysmash@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's the force in this point?

[–] lemmysmash@piefed.social 1 points 13 hours ago

Okay, I've found a nice picture for it. Whoever sad 150 N (with the 180° angle, less with other angles) was right, and the rest of us were wrong :)

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Somewhere between 100-150 N of downward force, depends on the angle that the rope on the left is being pulled at

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think it can get as low as 100N, for that you would have to pull completely upwards. The shadow in the image implies a ceiling, so ~112N if we take 90° as the max angle. The 150N would be the only case with a completely downward force, if you pull at another angle the resulting force vector will be angled as well.

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 1 points 21 hours ago

Yea that's why I said max down force, didn't want to do the math to find the resultant for a 90 degree to the left pull

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it depend on how fast that rope is pulled too, adding in the acceleration of the mass?

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

Nope. Right now the system is balanced, the rope is not being pulled just hold. To pull the weight up you need more than 50N, plus a bit more if we take into consideration the friction in the pulleys and in the rope itself.

[–] lemmysmash@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It should be 50 N assuming ideal system (0 pulley traction), right? What about non-ideal systems?

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago

Wouldn't it be 100, same as the mass being lifted (well more really, depending on the acceleration of that mass)?