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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

One reason might be because it promises to use all the collective creation of humanity to basically be able to go on auto pilot for a short while.

That might sound great if you’re old, but most young people want to make a mark on the world.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Our biggest issue is affordable housing and every data center eats into housing resources. That is so fucked up Im shocked people aren’t mobbing proposed construction sites.

[–] Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You can probably look it up by your region, but I think most places actually have more vacant housing than homeless people. It's unaffordable by design because it's an investment in real estate. This may also be an american phenomenon, but it happens here in Canada too

So the real problem eating housing resources is human greed - which I suppose isn't that far off from the reason data centers are being built

[–] awfulawful@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

From what I have read, there is usually little overlap. Higher homelessness and high priced housing is in areas with low vacancy rates, and vice versa. That's not to say you're wrong about greed being a real problem (it definitely is), but I think it's multifaceted rather than a singular "real" problem.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Vancouver BC licensed a bunch of shitty condo high rises to friends of city council.

Nobody bought them so they're sitting empty even as new high rise condos nobody wants are being built.

Solution: the federal government writes a check to the condo developers, and subsidizes some means-tested people to live there paying full price to the developer, in order to "stabilize the real estate market".

Housing prices are being kept artificially high as a matter of government policy.

This is not a "the market will sort it out" thing, even if the market would fix things (ha), it's not even getting the chance.

[–] awfulawful@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is why I'm trying to make the point that it is not a single problem issue. The market alone isn't going to solve the problem even if you remove corrupt situations like this as you said. But it's also not going to solve the issue just to address "greed" by whatever regulatory mechanisms that might take shape as.

Supply is absolutely part of it that needs to be solved, obviously with reasonable housing and not luxury condos. Other things are too. Anyone who tries to make something as big and complex as housing into a silver bullet, black and white concern is not actually trying to solve the problem. They are trying to do something else and using housing as an excuse.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of the condos aren't even luxurious, a lot of them are small with really shitty kitchens. There's a price where they'd sell, but it would not be a prestige price that could gather enough dues to maintain the building.

But Canada wants to catch up to the UK and the US as a grim police state, so high rises and pocket neighborhoods and data centers it is.

One of the major roots of the problem IS the systemic corruption of every aspect of economic life, including housing, where bought politicians can't make any decision at all unless one of their patrons makes money out of it.

[–] awfulawful@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago

Yep, that sort of capture is definitely one of the major causes. It is designed to prevent working people from being able to build wealth through sensible development that they can actually control. Everything has to run through huge developers and big projects that average people have no hope of participating in or holding power over.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

I think they are in many cases

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

So it looks like Christopher Nolan has the super talent of reading the fucking room

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

They're not the only ones.

I do think this is much stronger aversion than the previous dislike for CGI generally, though. We hate it in principle as much as for the results. The question is, how long before we're not able to spot it? Not much longer, methinks.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Block that ai shit everywhere and prohibit further data centres construction.

[–] WhatThaFudge@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

Matt Damon.. Really?

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Why GenZ specifically? The only people I know who regularly use AI by choice are GenX and Boomers.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a millennial, I'm impressed by genZ activism, the youth is alright.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

One of my last jobs was at a university, the Gen Z’s I was seeing couldn’t even use a mouse or a flash drive. I have no idea what activism you’re talking about in regards to Gen Z not wanting to use AI.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Activistm ≠ IT literacy

not sure what your point is

I'm in activist spaces and they are dominated by women and genz

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It takes IT literacy to have activism against an IT construct.

But my main point from my original comment was: Why are we singling out one generation from something that’s clearly a class war? And that the only people I know who willingly use AI are older so I assume that, like Millennials, Gen Z will simply be forced to use it by their Gen X and Boomer managers or be homeless.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It takes IT literacy to have activism against an IT construct.

No, it doesn't. I don't need to know how to operate a coal plant to protest against one being built.

Being able to use a desktop computer has no bearing on your ability to grasp the environmental and socio-economic impact of data centers.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

Yes it does, you would need to be able to tell the difference between a coal plant and a natural gas plant.

I really don't get your point, you can do activism with poor IT literacy skills. Even to fight AI data centers.

You might be thinking about hacktivism. but boots on the ground, its a lot of GenZ and mostly women.

Yes, it is a class war, but that's the reality of the activism I see.

Mutual aids, female led, protests, female led with lots of genZ.