The only way I’d support this is if the government owned the means of production, not the wealthy elite.
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He's entirely right. It's the only way civilization with survive the tumult and unrest that will be caused by mass unemployment. There are very few jobs safe from AI in the medium-to-long term.
So he has nothing but empty platitudes while they continue to rip us off at every angle.
UBI will be what they promise while they rape everyone and everything. Then when they have it all, they'll all the sudden be too busy or it'll be too expensive for UBI.
I'd say the fact that billionaires are even talking about UBI like it's on the table is just the redirection while they gut your social services. "Don't worry about us taking your healthcare, or your food stamps. You'll have UBI someday!" Pay no attention to the fact that you can't eat a promise. Don't acknowledge that UBI wouldn't address any cost issues. Even if they did make a real UBI someday, it would eventually not keep up with inflation, like everything else, by design.
If we want social safety nets, we need people who will build up socialist structures, not capitalists dangling yet another proverbial carrot on a stick.
Yea.
It’d probably help everyone if they considered how hard it is for them to get concessions even when they have levers of power through labour strikes and some form of direct involvement in the economy and government.
What happens you’re just a worthless leech? What happens when they’re not paying enough to sustain you? What will you do? Vote against them? How long will the vote be given to “the leeches”? And then you’ll protest? How long before a massive robot army is both unbeatable and disposable?
I don’t understand how more people aren’t talking more about what mass disenfranchisement broad UBI implies. To be simply exiled from society, not freed from it, seems a natural endpoint. Especially if it’s driven by literal human replacement machines.
That's a good point, even if we somehow get to the point where the federal government will implement UBI, it will still be under constant attack unless we also overhaul how the government works. And/or maintain better candidates and voters.
Machines can not, and will not, do everything. A lot of manual labor, sure, and media companies already don’t want to pay photographers or writers. However, people don’t go for that shit nearly as much as AI companies believe. When it comes to manufacturing, there’s only so much machines can do before a human touch is required. Hell, just the fact that we have a damn brain and two eyes is more than many machines. We’re creative, curious, and willing to take risks. AI can only do what it’s told, and there are only so many edge cases that can be scripted in before it’s just easier to get a person to do it.
Humans can problem solve new scenarios. A machine can only apply a solution that's been developed and programmed by a human.
There are very hard limits. It's why cars will never be able to self drive except in specific tracks designed for ai
I think you're mistaken. Their ability to infer from partial information makes them excel at innovating new ideas or concepts not yet considered.
Ai doest infer or understand anything
It is just probability formulas.
It can only copy what a human has already done. Only apply it how a human tells it to.
You're mistaken. It's a neural network, not so dissimilar from a physical brain - just with simulated, digital synapses instead of biological, physical ones. It is much more than probability formulas. You're thinking of a Markov Chain, which is completely different from the neural network of modern LLMs. Neural networks are capable of novel generation, outside of what was learned during training. There is no copying involved, at all.
I'm a cognitive neuroscientist and I'm knowledgeable about these "neural networks". They are in fact , not like the brain.
They are probability models.
The human brain does not use mathematical probability. Nor does it use information the way probability models use it.
The only way that they are like the brain is that both can be visualized like a network of nodes that connect with lines.
"Visualized" . Meaning an artistic representation.
That's where the similarities end.
They are not capable of novel generation except that can remash existing procedures with other procedures that humans programmed them to do, into infinite combinations.
This is not creation. It's not innovation.
It's systematic trial-and-error based on human solutions.
And sometimes after a million iterations, a handful work.
A human wouldn't have needed to approach the problem like that. We rarely problem solve systematically because it's inefficient and we are way better at finding solutions through our own methods.
We only use systematic methods in research and then we still use novel problem solving to implement focused systematic methods. We have limited time and funding usually so we have to be smart about it and not do every combination. Also doing big systematic methods increases a type 1 error.
Which AI does a lot of.
We will absolutely get UBI, or violence will ensue. That said, UBI will not look like humans being able to focus on arts and the humanities. The more likely scenario will be like that found in "The Expanse" book series where "life under basic" will be a threat, not a promise.
China will get UBI. The only concern is if USA does it before or after China and the way things have been going it will be after.
Regardless of people's opinion on UBI the jobs are going away. China just started the process decades ago. USA did not. China chose to plan for an orderly transition. USA chose Republicans.
China has a very weak social welfare system compared to Europe, where (in some countries) UBI already exists for the elderly and minimum income guarantees are much higher than in China, even when correcting for purchasing power. The dibao (less than 200 USD per month) alleviates extreme poverty to some extent but not much more. Its European equivalent goes up to about 2000 USD per month.
Stay off the red pills