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TIL that the USA only has one plant that produces gun barrels for the M1 Abrams tank, M777 howitzers, and Paladin self propelled howitzers. The Watervliet Arsenal in Troy, NY is the nation's oldest arsenal dating back to 1813. The manufacturing plant has tripled its production over the last 3 years.

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Seems like a bad idea to have all your eggs in one basket, no?

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have you considered how unprofitable it is to run it in a different way? Why do you hate profits?!

/s

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] philipp_@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Looking at what Ukrainian special forces are doing in Russia, it's less impossible than five years ago. Like that time they destroyed strategic bombers with drones smuggled in mobile homes driving by the airport.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Russia is known for being geographically easy to invade. The US is surrounded by water...

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

It's ok, most of their eggs have been recalled.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

In the business we call this a single point of failure

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I wonder how many they forge in a year. The article says production tripled in 2022 due to the Ukraine war, I am curious what that number is.

How often does a tank need to replace its barrel?

I wonder when the last time the US lost a Self Propelled Howitzer? WWII/ Korea?

Did a bunch get destroyed/spiked when the US pulled out of Afghanistan?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Barrels are a wear item on these things, the Abrahams replaces a barrel at 1500 shots. While they may not lose many mechanisms, there's still passive demand for barrels.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When it is replaced is it scrap or do they rebore it and reuse it?

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I bet it’s scrap, the force and pressure on those things is nuts

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The 777 howitzer barrel is made of titanium. The US doesnt have a reliable source for it so I would expect they are sent back and recast

[–] philipp_@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

I was thinking more about the supply chain and recycling the metal directly back to manufacture. If you scrapped the barrels like we scrap most things the titanium would probably be lost. Where it broke would be where it lay.

[–] SlightlyNormal@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pronounced water-vuh-leet in the bastardized Dutch that is rampant in upstate NY.

[–] FRYD@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

When I lived up there, I only ever heard water-vil-ay

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Should be WAA•tuhr•vleet, if going by Dutch pronunciation. /ˈwaː.tərˌvliːt/

[–] SlightlyNormal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Hence me calling it bastardized haha

[–] SlightlyNormal@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I was corrected endlessly until I used water-vuh-leet.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

With war changing so quickly, how much longer will such heavy metal be useful?

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Artillery will be used for a thousand years. It's convenient cheap and can be stored in bulk safely with whatever shells you want. You can deliver drones with it even.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

So more bang for the buck