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[–] topperharlie@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

A couple of thoughts:

Yes, I've heard before, even from people living in Japan, that they are quite xenophobic.

Now, why is this not condemned from the west ? (I know Chinese people and they do remember WW2)

As everything several reasons:

Japan has a great propaganda machine to make their culture look cool AF: anime/manga, the mythology around temples, samurais, ninjas...

The good parts of their culture, specially in contrast to the west: the extreme politeness, how clean and organized they are, civility/safety, super good and maintained public services such transport...

The "pretend WW2 didn't happen". They were absolute monsters on WW2, way beyond the nazis, but the combination of doing a 180 towards the west and the atomic bombs made it so the west was comfortable with looking the other way while Japan conveniently forgets his war crimes (for anyone unaware search for Nanjing, be warned is a hard read, but is important not to forget)

The "pacifist xenophobia". When you go to japan their way of practicing xenophobia is quite passive, like, let's be clear, you are loud and disgusting for them, but they will never tell you that, and you are probably never going to be in danger. At least as a tourist this is 100% like this, they might even just feel introverted rather than xenophobic. From what I've heard from people living there, it gets more clear when you live, but didn't get any "I'm in danger" feeling from them, so I guess that low key discrimination is like that.

Now, not saying any of that makes it good, but I can understand why there is a different level of pushback than to the USA for example, where if you are brown and meet an angry cop or redneck (or both), you might end up dead.

I know for the fucking internet there is no such thing as grey, is either black or white, but I think the world is more nuanced than that.

BTW, for their work culture alone I would never live there, and while I like an anime or two, I'm not an otaku by any means. I did enjoy my vacation on Japan several years ago, but not more than the one on China or other Asian countries.

The discrimination is never direct when it's regulated. They just try to repress you the legal way. Of course Japan has better regulation than the third world countries (or countries that pretend they are first world but are equally shitty - US, ex Yugoslavia, Poland, Hungary, etc.).

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Due to their propaganda machine they have alot of soft power (and mainly cause of the "Cool Japan" thing like the post title references)

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[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I have worked with a Japanese company for almost 2 years and never ever again. The racism, incompetence and ass covering is astounding. The way they treat women is also appalling but no one talks about this.

I'll never understand why western people love Japan, but vilify China. My experience in working in China is a total opposite of Japan.

Generally I think it's because the Japanese have had continuous cultural interacting with the West for centuries at this point. Everything from Dutch and Portuguese trade during the sengoku jidai, to pirate ronin in the Philippines during isolation, to Japanese communities from Baja Sur to the cascades, and then finally stable connections being made post commodore Perry. In contrast the Chinese have had less than stable connections due to massive cultural changes every couple hundred years including periods of isolation, the collapse of the Ming fucking up trade routes for a time, the Qing being notably more isolationist, the warlord and Republican period being a shitshow, followed by the isolation of the communist period shattering a lot of western interst, it makes for less than stable connections.

Also there's the whole great firewall of China thing going on which further seperates things in the modern age of the internet, it's not total separation but it's enough to be notable. In contrast I have been cussed out by a Japanese person, a Ruskie, an Aussie, and a fucken Peruvian simultaneously while playing games.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

You found that the Chinese weren't racist or sexist? I agree with you about Japan, but China was hardly enlightened. They were mostly just louder and more obnoxious, where the Japanese were overly formal and quiet.

Both cultures also had a lot of superstitions, like words or phrases you shouldn't say, or lucky or unlucky numbers.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I see my self like both China and Japan ngl.

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[–] Ostrakon@lemmy.world 241 points 1 day ago (30 children)

The people defending this as 'not racism'... way to miss the point. If this was some BBQ joint in Texas with a sign that says closed in Spanish but open in English you wouldn't be posting these comments

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago

Its called Xenophobia.

Xenophobia and racism are distinct forms of prejudice: xenophobia is the fear or hatred of foreigners, while racism is the belief in racial superiority and systemic oppression based on race. Though they overlap, they target people for different reasons.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 152 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I used a bus in Japan to go to Mount Fuji. Seats were assigned like on a plane and I was sitting next to some Japanese guy. I did my best to respect their customs and remained silent and kept to myself for the two hour ride. The inside of the bus was as silent as a church for the entire drive even though it was full.

On the way back at the end of the day, the bus had dropped a few passengers somewhere and stopped at a station for a toilet break. When we boarded again the driver went to see the passenger beside me and moved him to another seat on the bus to sit in a seat that had been freed up next to another Japanese person. It looks like the passenger went to see the driver to request the seat change during the break.

I've spent the rest of the ride wondering what I had done wrong. It's really a fucked up feeling and it must be horrible to be experiencing this sort of passive aggressive racism on a daily basis in your own home.

[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It probably wasn't anything wrong you had done wrong. From what I've been hearing from some family who do business in asia. As they explain it, Japan has had an economic whiplash from the 80s and a lot of those cultural and economic policies that gave them initial success were not sustainable long term. And since Japan is a VERY proud culture, they've found it easier to blame outsiders than their own miscalculations.

[–] skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they've found it easier to blame outsiders than their own miscalculations.

Enough said, round the world

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (13 children)

Important to note that English is the global lingua franca.

So tourists from Mexico, Nicaragua, Sweden, Adygea, Italy, Rojava, Tajikistan, Djibouti, and Mozambique etc also use English language while visiting most foreign places.

This is NOT an "American tourists litter too much" thing.

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[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 109 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Japan is one of the most xenophobic countries on the planet. This is just one example.

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[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

If you could turn the lights out to the entire world for ten seconds, when you turn them back on half of Asia will have killed the other half. And if you ask where everyone else is they won't even know who you're talking about.

"Not in front of outsiders" does a lot of peacekeeping. The second the west forgets NK they're doomed, that's why their whole foreign policy can be boiled down to "Look at me!"

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Is that why I see the word "gaijin"(i probably spelt it wrong in English) being used? (Assuming Xenophobia is here)

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Japan, where racism doesn't usually get the same criticism it does elsewhere for whatever reason..

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Japan cast cat girl, it was super effective. All knowledge of atrocities was erased from western nations.

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