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[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Reading the original article written in the early 1900s, it’s fascinating that scientists believed that the sun’s nearly infinite energy came from the slow compression of its gasses. (Obviously nuclear fusion wasn’t known back then.) It seems like a reasonable explanation, if we didn’t know better today.

[-] Cypher@aussie.zone 13 points 11 months ago

I mean…. Given that fusion is the combining of atomic nuclei it is kind of compression of matter into denser atoms.

It’s a very crude but surprisingly accurate description.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

In 1905, we hadn't invented semi conductors yet.

I highly doubt his invention worked.

[-] BartyDeCanter 21 points 11 months ago

It is completely unnecessary to have modern semis to make a solar cell. You can easily make one with copper sheets and a salt solution.

The first solar cell dates to 1884.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photovoltaic_effect

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 7 points 11 months ago

You do, however, need semiconductors, mercury arc valves (1930s I think, and rather big/expensive/fragile), or motor-generators to turn the DC from PV back into AC, or to another voltage DC.

Running everything at ~110VDC was an option - that's what Edison wanted to do. However, you need your generation very close to your demand which just doesn't work once you start looking at dense cities and skyscrapers.

It also breaks down once people start wanting radios and other valve or transistor based electronics, until about the 80s when switch mode DC-DC converters start becoming an option.

It seems like you'd need an enormous amount of copper, which was in short supply at various times.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago
[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Indeed, efficiency.

Semiconductors allow modern computing power, efficient solar panels and efficient LED lighting.

That said. I am still skeptical those panels worked, as in - produced a technically and economically viable level of output.

There was a lot of vaporware during that time.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

That's my impression also. The article mentions that he didn't capitulate to the kidnapper's demands, yet still his business fizzled out, and then it just glosses straight over it.

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

I think they still would have, fossils fuels are the perfect commodity to make money off of and I don't think capitalists would have let that go without a fight. By their very nature using fossil fuels for power destroys them, requiring a constant source, and demand has only increased over time. If solar had been gaining ground in a serious way I feel like the oil cartels of the day would have had something to say. Who knows, maybe they were involved in the kidnapping

[-] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

So we’re essentially 40 years behind in solar development. Cool.

[-] essellburns@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago
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