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Jerusalem Catholic Patriarch offers to be exchanged for Gaza hostages (www.reuters.com)

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[-] xhieron@lemmy.world 142 points 10 months ago

I know we're all cynics here, but good for him. Even if this is entirely a publicity stunt, the guy is still taking a huge risk that someone might offer to take him up on it. That's a lot of nerve, and that's a lot of faith, either in God or in the way Hamas values hostages.

Either way, to repeat the notion elsewhere in the thread: any of us offering? Maybe it's a low risk--but it ain't zero. It's easy to dismiss these kinds of gestures from the same armchairs from which we solve geopolitics and warfare, but a public figure going on record for selflessness is something to be celebrated, even if the only noble trait is willingness to roll the dice on human nature in the hope of sharing an altruistic sentiment.

"Hurt me instead of her" is something we wish more people of faith would say everywhere.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 55 points 10 months ago

“Hurt me instead of her”

That's kind of the entire message of Jesus: He volunteered to be hurt instead of us.

Now, the whole notion of God hurting us or Jesus is kinda fucked and I'm a devout Last Thursdayist, but the sentiment is the same.

[-] MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee 32 points 10 months ago

TIL: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Last_Thursdayism

Neat.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Thanks, me too. Existential crisis incoming.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago

I think the core message of Last Thursdayism is that since we can't know, we shouldn't worry about it

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

You do you. I’m freaking out. It can’t be stopped now. Pray for me.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

May Bob guide you to your slack

[-] Fester@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

I’ve used this argument unironically with creationists without realizing it was a thing. “If God is omnipotent, why couldn’t God create something that didn’t exist a moment ago but then comes into existence with billions of years of history.”

It’s just an attempt to at least get them to acknowledge science while still leaving room for faith, since carbon dating isn’t really up for debate and cosmology offers more than enough convincing evidence against a young universe, just to name two examples.

Anyway I thought I was being creative and original… guess not.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

I'm an Adamsian Last Thursdayist of the Subgenius, which synthesizes The Hitchhiker's Guide and the Church of the Subgenius into something resembling a theology.

If I'm going to believe in something made up, I'll make up something fun.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Praise Bob!

[-] swab148@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago

Me and a few buddies tried writing a "Not So Holy-ish Boble" in grades 7-9, it quickly became a one-upsmanship contest to see who could write the gayest thing you've ever read. There were characters such as Adam the Ant, a three-foot tall anthropomorphic ant with a ten-foot long penis, and Elliot the Otter, who was not only a literal otter, but also figurative. He was based on a real guy we knew, who loved it, but was not actually an otter himself (more of a twunk). Where's Bob in all this? Very much involved in every activity, he was basically a super horny pansexual Jesus who would use his powers to incite orgies. I think it ended with a cumshot from Adam, so hard that it blasted the whole crew into space so they could convert other worlds. I was supposed to write the "Revelations" final chapter, but by then the group had converted to some other weird thing that the (very hot) new girl in school brought with her, and interest had waned.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Get this script to Seth Rogen and A24, they’ll make it a movie. Call it Sausage Fest 2- The Slappening.

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 128 points 10 months ago

If genuine, this man shows a deep understanding of Christianity that eclipses all American evangelicals combined. He'd be a seriously good person, worth being respected by everyone regardless of religion.

[-] detalferous@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago

He also understands that a Christian is of absolutely no value in negotiating with Israel for Palestinian prisoners.

It's brilliant: make a magnanimous gesture that seems incredible but really has zero chance is being accepted.

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

Very well said.

[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 67 points 10 months ago

Speed-running sainthood.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

In doing so, he would be following after Saint Maximilian Kolbe:

a Polish Catholic priest and Conventual Franciscan friar who volunteered to die in place of a man named Franciszek Gajowniczek in the German death camp of Auschwitz

[-] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 22 points 10 months ago

The Catholic Church venerates him as the patron saint of amateur radio operators, drug addicts, political prisoners, families, journalists, and prisoners.

That’s uh, ..huh…something.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Drug addicts are likely in there because they were victims of the Holocaust. Sainthood is like that. You’ve got some things that are directly related to you, and several that someone needs to be patron of and you’re close enough

[-] Jazard23@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago

St. Lawrence was executed by placing him on a gridiron with coals beneath it. At some point during his execution, he declared to the Romans "I am done on this side, turn me over". After this he became the patron saint of both cooks and comedians, which I think is hilarious

[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 6 points 10 months ago

I had forgotten about him, thanks!

[-] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 10 months ago

What is Hamas going to do with a catholic priest? They want to exchange Israeli hostages for all the Palestinian men, women and children that Israel is holding hostage in Israeli prisons.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Israel is holding palestinian children in prison? What?

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 29 points 10 months ago

The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories

At the end of June 2023, the Israel Prison Service (IPS) was holding 147 Palestinian minors in detention or in prison on what it defined “security” grounds. At that time, the IPS was also holding 26 Palestinian minors for being in Israel illegally.

[-] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 10 months ago

Yes they are. The charges in most cases? Stone throwing. I'll add a few links for you to get started.

https://www.dci-palestine.org/children_in_israeli_detention

https://www.btselem.org/statistics/minors_in_custody

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/10/palestinian-children-abused-in-israeli-detention-ngo

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

This is awful. Thanks for sharing. ☹️

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Usually they just shoot them.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

VATICAN CITY, Oct 16 (Reuters) - Pope Francis' representative in the Holy Land said on Monday he was willing to exchange himself for Israeli children taken hostage by Hamas and held in Gaza.

Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, made his comment in response to a question during a video conference with journalists in Italy.

He stressed, however, that he and his office had not yet had any direct contact with Hamas, the militant Islamist group that attacked Israel on Oct. 7, killing 1,300 people.

Diplomatic efforts have been intensifying to get aid into Gaza as Israel prepares a ground invasion to destroy Hamas.

Pizzaballa said that about 1,000 Christians were sheltering in Church buildings in northern Gaza after their homes were destroyed in Israeli strikes.

Israel has urged exhausted Gazans to evacuate to the south, which hundreds of thousands have already done in the enclave that is home to more than 2 million people.

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[-] yumpsuit@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

SAY HIS NAME

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