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Wonder what they think Trump would have done differently.
Seriously. Trump is advocating turning Gaza into a parking lot.
And it's not like Democrats have exactly been shy of their general support of Israel, if you've paid any attention at all. They just also happen to acknowledge that Palestinians are people, unlike most Republicans.
It's possible to be angry at both Republicans and Democrats.
But you still must vote for the one likely to do you the least harm if you don't want to get fucked. White Biden sucks he's objectively better than Trump for Muslim Americans. Trump was talking about deporting and blocking them from entering.
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In a First Past the Post voting system, refusing to vote, or voting 3rd party, is numerically the same as an extra vote for the candidate you hate the most. It's just one more vote closer to victory that your opposition gets.
Neither party is great, there's plenty to dislike about both, but it's patently obvious that one is far more harmful than the other.
Well it's not really numerically the same as voting for the candidate you hate the most, it's numerically the same as not voting. And to be honest, it really only matters if you're in a potential swing state. And I'm saying this as someone who still votes despite having lived in a deep red state where my presidential vote always doesn't matter (but I go anyway because down ballot votes do matter and I might as well vote the whole ballot).
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So instead of diminished aid for Palestine, you’d rather… checks notes… travel bans for all middle eastern people trying to go to the US, except for people from a handful of governments who are actively giving Trump money?
Don't forget Trump's son-in-law's middle east foreign policy plan for Israel that Palestinian supporting groups rejected and weren't consulted with further. Israel was to be allowed to annex existing settled positions, and no further expansion from either side. Israeli settlers haven't adhered to this "peace plan" anyway.
Any Americans staying home at elections, this type of foreign policy is what they tacitly support.
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Sure don't vote Biden. Just vote for the fascist Republicans that previously banned people from muslim countries. That will work, right gaiz? Plus any Republican president won't ever send Gaza aid. Biden is sending aid.
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/18/1206897197/biden-makes-deal-on-aid-delivery-to-gaza
Yeah. Does anybody else think that this "One strike and you're dead to me, regardless of how complex the issue is" thing is getting a little out of hand? The only winning move here is not to play, but then he would be attacked from both sides for appearing apathetic.
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Single issue voters are myopic
Eh. I’d argue that if your single issue is climate change, you’re rather sharp sighted. But I take your point in general.
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Islam and far right Christianity have a lot in common. Wouldn't surprise me that the Muslim community would side with the party that wants to limit women's rights and LGBTQ rights.
Honestly it's shocking how most religions veer right in the most extreme groups. Ultra orthodox anything tends to lead to traditional but extreme sexism, cultishness, and xenophobia, or in other words, the GOP.
Not shocking at all. If your religion encourages open mindedness, people will open their minds. This gives them the opportunity to leave whenever they want.
But a religion that exerts control over its members tends to trap people into it, therefore growing over time. So we see that successful religions tend towards extremism, because they are more “fit”, in a Darwinist sense.
It's not shocking. The right, conservatism, can be explained by asking what it is they want to conserve. What do conservatives want to conserve?
The answer is traditional societal norms, hierarchies and power structures. From here it isnt a big jump to understand why religions and conservatism often go hand in hand.
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So, like, are they going to vote for the guy that literally has "banning Muslims" as a platform?
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Ok, but then don‘t cry when Trump gets reelected
Welp…good lucky with that other guy, whomever that might be.
My feeling is that this "betrayed" part of Muslim is the socially conservative one that voted left because the right was racists and pro Israel. But if the left is pro Israel as well, then they might as well vote right to get conservative (pro life, misogynistic) policies forward
TBH, the bizarre cognitive dissonance in all these religious types (pick one) bypasses all rational thought processes.
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“I am willing to vote for a much worse actual fascist monster who will 100% use his presidency to destroy democracy and those that tried to hold him accountable, all because Biden… stood with an ally during a horrendous terrorist attack even though because of Biden Israel has slowed its roll and allowed aid in”
The full brainless take from that moron. What an emotionally stunted bullshit opinion
Or they could just not vote at all like most Americans
In a two party system, abstention is a vote for the person you hate most.
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A man giving up his life for the USA is not enough to stop Trump from berating that soldier's surviving family publicly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khizr_and_Ghazala_Khan
If Arab and Muslim want to choose that over Biden because of Palestine well then I'll not contribute ever again to a rebuilding of the mosque in my community.
Consider my face eaten, leopards.
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If I have to choose between eating a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich with broken glass, I'm gonna choose the one without the broken glass every time. So many people seem to think that eating the one with broken glass, or letting someone else choose, is somehow taking a stand against shit sandwiches.
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religion makes people do the dumbest shit
So who are they going to vote for then? I cannot believe that they would imagine Trump to be more sympathetic to their cause, if anything, Israel would receive even stronger backing were he the President
Didn't he basically put a fire to the whole conflict by moving the embassy to Jerusalem?
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They obvioualy haven't heard what Trump and the right said about Hamas then, or they wouldnt be thinking that way.
This is a best case scenario.
Yeah, vote for a republican because that’s definitely not going to fuck you. And let’s fucking be real, all you pedants: a vote other than Biden is a vote for the republican traitor filth.
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because of biden we got the ground invasion put off and humanitarian aid flowing into gaza...
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😂 lol so they want trump.... Who wants to wipe out all Muslims.
That makes no sense whatsoever to me. And I'm not alone, that I know for sure. I mean the whole ordeal: religion, war, hate, the economic construct of "nations" - I don't get it anymore. Actually never had.
Muslims make up less than 1% of the U.S. population, which is much less than the margin of any presidential election in my lifetime, so I doubt Biden is losing too much sleep over this.
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Seems kinda weak, just stating who you don't support. And to be a single issue voter is dangerous.
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