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My experience with the Fediverse has only been through Mastodon, through which I struggled to find a community I really gelled with. Either it was supper overwhelming with meme posts or NSFW, or it was too chill to the point of nothing. Or, it was hyperfocused like FOSS/Linux and became uninteresting after awhile. May try again, but I think I will explore the other fedisites like Plemora or Calckey to see if I like it better.

I love the pace of a forum. I grew up primarily with GameFAQS and some lucid dreaming forum, and honestly it was very formative in teaching me how to write and use critical thinking skills, as well as how to respond to a variety of temperaments. I stopped participating in online forums awhile ago, and while I loved Reddit as a resource, I never felt inspired to participate. In the same way, there are an incredible number of forums dedicated to a certain topic, and are extremely valuable, it would be annoying to make an account for all the things I am interested in.

I like what lemmy is becoming. Glad to find system that makes interacting with people enjoyable.

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[–] XPost3000@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yeah same here, Reddit is my mindless scrolling app of choice, not Twitter, so when I tried to use Mastodon I just kinda stood there not knowing what to do

I love being able to read and immerse myself is specific communities and whatnot, and specifically I love Reddit for the discourse, people posting in a community, replying to posts, and replaying to those replies, and so on

So Lemmy has just become my jam, so happy that Reddit has an open source federated alternative now, even if they reverse their API debacle I'm still gonna keep using this app

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)
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[–] simple@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (14 children)

I never really liked Twitter as a concept. It feels like it's built on an "old man yells at cloud" concept where people just shout their thoughts and nobody gains anything from it.

By comparison forums are there to foster discussions and communities. I thought Mastodon would be better but I spent 5 minutes and it's exactly the same nonsense.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same, same. If I follow 3 high-volume posters on mastodon or twitter, there goes my entire day.

I prefer to follow topics / communities, not people / celebrities.

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[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago

Yes! I remember A LOOONG time ago when Twitter was just beginning, and the articles about it were very confused about how to use it. It was described like a kind of social telepathy, where the sharing of thoughts brought about a quick intimacy with strangers. Now it is just a playground for corporations and narcissists. Well, I suppose it was always like that.

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[–] SamC@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I've been thinking that it is probably easier to move a community from a platform like Reddit to the Fediverse than it is from Twitter. I have used both Twitter and Reddit a lot, but have moved off Twitter and now use Mastodon. Mastodon works pretty well for me, but it's taken a lot of work to get there, and there are parts of the communities (mostly related to my work) I want to connect with that just don't exist on Mastodon.

But the big difference between Reddit/Lemmy and Twitter/Mastodon is that on Reddit/Lemmy I am interested in communities for topics that are mostly hobbies/entertainment etc. for me, so I don't really care about who I'm interacting with... I can't really name more than a handful of regular users or mods on the Reddit subs I've been using for more than a decade. But it's not really important for interacting there, because it's about interacting with people who have an interest in a particular topic no matter who they are. On Twitter/Mastodon (at least how I use it), the specific people I'm interacting with are more important.

So it seems the "lock in" of Reddit is weaker than Twitter, and I think it'll be quicker to establish communities here. A community on Lemmy with a few hundred people contributing (posts/comments) is already pretty successful and enjoyable. It doesn't matter that the equivalent community on Reddit has over a million people (and in fact it's often better if it's smaller!).

That weaker lock in and the fact that Reddit seems to be massively undervaluing the contribution mods and third-party app devs make to the platform make me think Reddit is going to quickly regret this whole fiasco.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

True, I also think lemmy is the main star of fediverse (peertube too) because they don't need network effect qnd milions of users.

Problem with reddit is it got too big l, similar like youtube, it always recommending me videos with milions of views and I don't like them - they are professionally done and trying to sell me something.

I just want to watch random people sharing their thoughts and hobbies.

Right now we don't have that part of the internet, but looks like it is comming back.

[–] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I think some of that is your YouTube profile, because I regularly reject recommended content on YouTube that has 250 subs or 1000 views. Mostly because it's someone who doesn't know what they're doing in terms of making an engaging video so I get super bored quick. I don't know how to tell you to change it, I do get stuff I ignore in the newpipe default list thats huge and completely uninteresting to me. But that may just be a default link, and I never go to just YouTube.com without just using it to search for a channel I like. I also don't like or subscribe as I don't really want another indicator of the channels I might watch. They can figure it out from what I load anyway.

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[–] aphoric@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Mastodon needs to absorb a critical mass of the users who drive content on Twitter in order to be a viable replacement. A Lemmy community only needs enough members to keep itself fairly active.

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[–] KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah the twitter style of social media has always confused me, I feel like there's much more community and fun here than mastodon but I use both

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

I have tried to go back to Mastodon, but I have not found an instance that makes me care enough.

[–] raresbears@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Strongly agree. Mastodon is alright and I use it a little, but the twitter-type format never really worked for me. I feel like when I have to follow individual people I usually end up either following no one or being forced to follow people who post things that interest me sometimes but a lot of the time post things that really don't. Following particular topics or threads just seems much more natural to me; I can look at exactly what interests me and nothing more.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Interesting people are not interesting all of the time, and following people usually just results in your feed loading up with complaints, gossip and drama.

I want to talk about things and ideas, not people.

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[–] pieceofcrazy@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm Gen Z and when I was little my parents were (rightfully) very careful with how much time I spent on the internet. Even so, I saw from a distance the old internet, where forums were a thing and you could find lots of cool websites that people made for reasons that weren't limited to promoting or selling something.

When I discovered Reddit it was like I could somehow experience that time, but for many the decline had already started.

I love interacting with people, asking and answering questions, discovering and making others discover new things, but I just can't stand feeling like everything and everyone is trying to sell me something anymore.

Now that I'm here, I feel like this could be the place, at least for a while.

[–] MayorMcCheese@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This all still reminds me of Usenet, nntp before it was ruined by spam. I would love an nntp client like thing for this. I can bring the data to me once per day. Efficient, I don’t need to linger more than necessary.

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[–] croobat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think Lemmy has it easier than Mastodon.

The bird app is mostly about following specific individuals, so the masses will go the where said individuals go.

The R app is all about communities and topics, so people will be more inclined to try it out. Personally I couldn't care less about who or how many people use Lemmy, as long as I got my Zelda memes.

[–] nimnim@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Yep, Same here! When things went south with Twitter, I tried switching to Mastodon, but after several months, I haven't become fond of it. Its interface is so terrible and difficult to navigate. When I heard of Lemmy as an alternative to Reddit, the first thing that came to my mind was, 'Oh, please don't be like Mastodon...' and I'm glad that it is not! I like the fact that it is kinda' similar to Reddit (interface-wise), but at the same time, it is decentralized, which means it is (hopefully) going in the right direction.

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[–] cowleggies@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Another Reddit refugee here: lemmy makes much more sense to my brain than mastodon ever did. So far, this has huge promise.

[–] SmugBedBug@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I felt kind of lost when looking for a Reddit alternative. Lemmy feels like the right alternative. It's not perfect but it's a better base than what we had with Reddit. I hope it picks up.

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[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago

I rely hope it takes off like Mastodon did. Like everything worthwhile online, its the efforts of one person doing miracles to create something everyone can use, so if I want it to exist I will have to contribute to it somehow.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I tried Mastadon too, it didn't gel with me. Turns out I don't care to follow people. I follow topics.

Is this so hard for big tech to understand?

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

You can follow hashtags on Mastodon. You can also follow Lemmy communities from Mastodon! Search @<community>@<instance> (ie @fediverse@lemmy.ml)

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[–] vamp07@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

The problem with mastodon is the same problem as twitter. Its just not a good social experience. I have said this before. Twitter/Mastodon are for individuals with a high follower count to get their message out. Its not for the other 99.99% that want to engage each other and discuss topics o interest.

[–] strypey@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I think I will explore the other fedisites like Plemora or Calckey to see if I like it better.

Servers running these apps connect to the same fediverse Mastodon servers connect to. As does Lemmy. All these apps just give you different ways to view the same social network, so which software you use makes less difference to what you can see than which server you use. Because there is no global view of the network, what you'll find in hashtag searches or federated timelines in the micro-posting apps (Mastodon, Pler/Akkoma Miss/CalcKey) depends on which accounts are being followed from the server hosting your account.

I'm new to Lemmy's way of viewing the 'verse, so I'm not sure what the equivalent is here. But I think what @dave describes in this thread about Communities hosted on other Lemmy servers taking a while to show up in searches here is relevant: https://lemmy.nz/comment/28480

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[–] jedi@cuscuz.in 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

@DidacticDumbass reading (and commenting) this from mastodon and I should say: great!

Use the experience you like better!

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