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[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 64 points 10 months ago

At the same time, they believe whatever half-baked narrative about Uyghurs in xinjiang by a totally biased pseudoscholar.

[-] toilet_wolf@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 10 months ago

it's so crazy to me how there have been thousands of pictures and videos showing incontrovertible proof people in Palestine are being massacred, we've seen exactly zero pictures or videos of the same happening in Xinjiang yet between the two countries China is the one being accused of genocide by the west

[-] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 10 months ago

They believe what the State Dept and mass western bourgeois press tells them to believe. The press told them China doing a genocide is a fact, State Dept agreed, they believe it. Those two reject the reality of Palestinian suffering, highlight only zionist propaganda messaging and this is the result. These people aren't seeing those pictures or don't consider them reliable because the "authoritative people" haven't made the call for it so it's all just Russian disinfo psyops or whatever.

Rejecting the truthfulness of those two institutions would require changing their worldviews and then they wouldn't be liberals. There's also something to be said for white supremacy. Casting Asians as barbaric, brutal, hordes is easy and doesn't dispute the white supremacist narrative. Casting white coded zionist settlers as bad would disrupt the narrative, better to continue to code brown Muslim people as barbaric hordes just like those Asiatic types out to destroy the "garden" of white civilization.

[-] AmerikaLosesWW3@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh you want proof? Best I can do is a heavily pixelated of some school in China. There's your proof. Huh? You won't accept it? CPP SHILL! The Chinese government is using some sort of magical technology to block our satellites!

Remember guys, Chinese technology is shit when it's convenient and highly advanced when it's convenient for the narrative.

[-] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Easy to explain, they want Muslims (or Palestinians in general of any faith) to die in Gaza and they want Muslims to fight China for them in xinjiang, like a lot of Muslims did in Afghanistan against the USSR.

There is no cognitive dissonance here. They are looking out for themselves and their empire. The narratives aren't for them, it's for others.

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 10 months ago

I don’t understand this argument either. Studying Fascism for several years I have had to grapple with numerous complex topics, such as why the Fascist bourgeoisie adopted antisemitism, why the Third Reich allied with Imperial Japan, why the Polish ruling class wouldn’t officially ally with the Fascists, and more. I can tell you that the subject of Palestine is not especially complex.

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 10 months ago

Ukraine was way more complicated than this and they acted like it was simple. Now they can’t see an obvious “bad guy” staring straight at them.

[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago
[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago

US foreign policy is easy!

Just turn off your hitler particles detector and take out US foreign policy

[-] urshanabi@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago

For those of us who don't know (like me) could you explain the bit about the Polish ruling class and not officially allying with Fascists?

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Since the pact [Józef] Beck refused to join provided solely for opposition to the international organization of Communism, and [Warsaw] was vehemently anti‐Communist as well as on the least friendly terms possible with the Soviet Union, why the reluctance of [Warsaw] to join and why the insistence of [Berlin] that she do so?

The answer to the question of [Warsaw’s] attitude is that adherence to the Anti‐Comintern Pact was seen as a form of policy subservience to Germany, a subservience not only in regard to the Soviet Union but in every other respect as well. This was no idle speculation on Beck’s part. Once [Warsaw] took the step [Berlin] wanted, she would be at [Berlin’s] mercy because she would have ruptured her tie to France while exposing herself to the wrath of her great eastern neighbor.

It was, of course, this very subservience that Hitler wanted. For his ambitions further east he needed either Poland’s acquiescence or that country’s destruction; any truly independent Poland would be a bar to his aims, and in the immediate future he especially wanted Poland quiet while he settled with England and France.

(Source.)

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