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Tesla is failing to play by Swedish labor rules, unions claim. Now a strike that started with mechanics is beginning to spread.

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[-] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 105 points 1 year ago

Come to Europe and fuck with unions, great idea, Musk.

His dumb ass will escalate and get in trouble with IG Metall, I can already see it...

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

Would be a huge blunder. Europe has one of the highest rates of EV uptake last time I checked

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 year ago

Eh, Elon is so deluded by arrogance that he might do it out of spite

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Yet he bends over backwards for papa Xi

[-] Jaccident@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Sweden doesn’t have a hard man authoritarian in charge to project daddy issues onto.

[-] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am afraid that he already bought some politicians. Did you see how he was welcomed by French government?

[-] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 year ago

That's the nice thing about unions, they don't care what politicians say ;)

[-] albert180@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But politicians can cripple unions as Union (German Christian Party=> Conservatives)and SPD (German Social Democrats) did with the Tarifeinheitsgesetz when the Union of Train Drivers did run a too successful strike for their taste Edit: Clarified that Union and SPD are referring to German political parties

[-] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

That doesn't affect most workers in unions, and can also be protested... by striking.

[-] albert180@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

How? I thought political strikes are not legal?

[-] Dass93@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

In Denmark if a political decision is taken that is against the union, the union can start a counter strike against them. Have happened before and it set the country on breake.

[-] albert180@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Well unfortunately it's not so easy in Germany. Good for you to have better labour laws

[-] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I know that but the gouvernement could passes law and unions couldn't do nothing about it (that's what happen when a gouvernement uses force instead of dialogue). In the recent years the French gouvernement passed many laws that weakened employees rights. Do you know that if you go into court against your employer and you win, you will just get few hundred euros? It won't ever cover for lawyer expenses. That's because a law was to max the amount you can and it is very low.

[-] albert180@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Normally the Union gives you a lawyer for employment related disputes

[-] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yes I know but the French gouvernement passed many laws not in favor of employees. There were strikes for months but the gouvernement didn't listen and police was beating people.

Now an employer can fire you because of race / sexual orientation... Etc. You can win if you went into trial but the employer may pay just few hundreds euros because there is a limit that caps how much the employer will pay.

[-] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

Unions couldn't do anything about it? Sure... 🙄

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

Gods please do. This company shouldn’t be allowed to operate here.

[-] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 year ago

If you look at Musks companies morality track record, probably none of them should be

[-] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Just checked the Wikipedia article of Tesla, and immediately went to the controversies chapter. Oh, boy have they been busy filling up this section. I’ve seen many controversy chapters, but this is just impressive. Many of the main points also have a dedicated article of their own.

[-] beevoid@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Good, they’re trash.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Can only get worse for Tesla from this point forward.

The unions will break them.

[-] mindlight@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Swede here. Last time this happened was last year when the dock workers blocked the unloading off Russian ships. This proved to be illegal according Swedish labour law (reading strikes and blockades).

This is a slightly different situation since they are in fact having a "sympathy strike" which essentially is them supporting another union's fight. The right is for the employer to sign an collective agreement. Since the are no minimum wage and other minimums in Swedish labour law such an agreement is a cornerstone for employers and employees in Sweden.

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