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Don't forget about the Irish unification of 2024!

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[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 23 points 9 months ago

While true, political power IS the problem.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 38 points 9 months ago

I know, right? These people really saw dominators oppressing people at the barrel of a gun and thought, "guess I should be holding the gun". That's not a new insight, it's the same thing every oppressor says. They also will all tell you, "I am the special person who knows what's best for you and can be trusted with this gun." Again, nothing new here.

[-] SrTobi@feddit.de 18 points 9 months ago

Well it does no really. The people with the guns often don't have much political power. They just follow what other people tell them. From the other side of the barrel it doesn't seem like that though.

Is there the occasional political power behind a gun? Sure, but commonly not

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Name a single effective non violent revolution.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago

The united states, every four years.

The only reason that particular transfer of power is not called a revolution is because it isn't violent. It's kind of in the definition of the word. Peaceful transfers of power exist though.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

That isn't a revolution that's an election.

They don't, power comes from violence. Please effectively exert authority without using violence, id love an example.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago

What counts as violence? Does a parent disciplining their child by taking their dessert away count as violence?

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes

behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago

Do you propose, then, that everyone should be allowed to do as they please with absolutely zero rules?

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Point to where I added my opinion.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Forgive me for assuming you considered violence to be bad.

Since we've presupposed that all authority must in some way stem from the threat of violence, a hatred for violence cannot exist without a hatred for authority.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I ask again, point to where I added my opinion on the matter.

What exactly is your point.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago

I just did, and I stated it two replies ago.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You have not quoted me once, you've projected your feelings into my statements and yet cannot explain which one you're deriving your flawed opinion of me from.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This thread started because you asked someone to name a single nonviolent revolution. Such a thing cannot possibly exist, especially considering your inexplicably broad definition of that word.

You cannot seriously equate shooting someone with taking a child's dessert away, simply because you consider them both to be violence. Considering this I'm a bit confused as to your point.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

That was my point.

Point to where I ever said or implied such a thing, please you don't actually have a point without a quote you can reference.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So you aren't presenting an opinion and your intent with this discussion was just to stir the pot for no reason.

Good to know I'm talking to a troll. Have a nice life.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I provided a statement of fact, if that's stirring the pot to you then consider it stirred.

Not at all, I've responded in good faith, why you're upset is beyond me.

[-] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

He showed how he can kill so many people by just starving them so

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