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What?????? What the hell??? — arbitrator Moneytrees, arbitration request for Lourdes

A 2015 arbitration report in this very periodical said "it was a matter of deep concern" that an abusive editor who had obtained administrator privileges "was able to fool the community for so long". At that time, they were banned by the Arbitration Committee following a long case. We are sad to report that, not only did the abuse not stop in 2015, but the same person managed to obtain a second administrator account, and was just discovered a few days ago.

November 1 case request and startling admission

Beeblebrox opened a request for arbitration against administrator Lourdes on 1 November, claiming misdeeds including administrative blackmail — bullying other less-privileged editors over their votes during a recent request for adminship. With the case request around one day old, on 2 November, the respondent suddenly stated that they are the site-banned former admin, Wifione. The case request was closed as moot following Lourdes' admission.

One of the contributors to the case, Kurtis, asked "Is this an ArbCom case request or an M. Night Shyamalan movie?" Others, like arbitrator Moneytrees in the quote above, were more to-the-point.

Wifione background

If you have read our prior coverage of how the Wifione siteban came to be, amidst allegations of paid editing while holding the admin bit, you can probably skip over this section.

According to the 2015 Arbcom case, the oldest known account used by the individual also known as Wifione was created in 2006. They created dozens of sock accounts, which were revealed by a 2008 checkuser request.

That prior account was later linked to another account called Wifione, which was created in 2009 and that had become a Wikipedia admin in 2010. The Arbitration committee case found that Wifione was engaging in search engine optimization related to an Indian educational firm. Wifione was sitebanned as part of the case resolution.

An admin called "Lourdes"

This long-term abuser created the Lourdes account in late 2015, initially under a different name. In 2016 they renamed the account. They were most active in 2016–17, and ran an unsuccessful, self-nominated request for adminship in early 2017; a second attempt in 2018 was successful with 207 in favor and 3 opposed. The account went mostly unused for 2020 through 2022, with many months of total editorial inactivity, although it continued to perform admin actions. In 2023, they returned to regularly editing the English Wikipedia.

Throughout their tenure, they made 2,282 admin actions, according to User:JamesR/AdminStats.

The arbitration case request filed this month alleged that Lourdes engaged in egregious abuse of their administrator status during a recent request for adminship, including the following:

Because I remember having acted on your complaints at ANI a few times, and on the basis of that connect and support that I gave you, I am requesting you to reconsider your stand
— Lourdes, at the case request

This kind of pressuring (there were other examples) was described by one of the contributors to the case request as "the kind of thinly veiled threat you'd expect to hear in The Godfather". In response, Lourdes gave an admission nobody expected:

I am User:Wifione, the admin who got blocked years ago.

My RL identity has nothing to do with any celebrity or anyone like that. I am not writing this to have any final laugh. It's just that I feel it appropriate to place it here specially for Beeblebrox, who I almost emotionally traumatised over the years with the aforementioned double sleight -- aka, pulling him around for revealing my so-called identity. It also required double-doxxing myself on at least one external project, namely Wikipediocracy, which even placed mentions of my name in the private section to protect my identity.

— Lourdes, at the case request

And blocked themselves indefinitely:

2023-11-01T22:47:55 User:Lourdes (talk | contribs) blocked User:Lourdes (talk | contribs) with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked, email disabled) (Abusing multiple accounts)

All of the details of the request and the statements made there — which arbitrators voted to decline as pointless soon after the revelations and the self-block — can be seen at its last revision link.

Aftermath

Nobody is quite sure what to make of this. How did they get away with this for so long? How did they conceal it this well? How did nobody notice? What was the point of spending years as a productive administrator, making tens of thousands of edits and logging thousands of actions, to implode the whole thing over a pointless argument on an RfA talk page?

The Signpost's sources have confirmed that the particular BADSITE mentioned in Lourdes' final message has indeed discussed this issue, and that both Beeblebrox and the disgraced LTA have posted more about the events, but the thread over there doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

In short: what?

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[-] echo64@lemmy.world 136 points 1 year ago

There is zero chance that there isn't also a third account

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

technicallythetruth, as way before this fiasco she disclosed 3 accounts used in accordance with WP's alt account policy

[-] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Playing the long con! Tell them about this extra account to throw them off his scent

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago

This was a weird and gripping tale of a user who can't stand being not an admin. Why they would dox themselves as the person that earned a previous super-duper ban is bewildering.

[-] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Wikipedia is one of the best, if not the best, free and open internet information sources. I'm not surprised that people are going to go after it like Musk has been.

[-] db2@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago
[-] amio@kbin.social 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What was the point of spending years as a productive administrator, making tens of thousands of edits and logging thousands of actions, to implode the whole thing over a pointless argument on an RfA talk page?

People do weird things. Mood disorders, (develop-/)mental disorders, personality disorders, extreme cases of having a shitty day, or just being a twat.

What is really fucked up isn't just the meltdown, but the insinuation they did this to fuck with someone else, this Beeblebrox guy. That's not very hoopy.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They need to find their towel, man.

[-] Railing5132@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Definitely not a hoopy frood

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Definitely would not sass.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 year ago
[-] Aatube@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

Bastardized By Yours Truly

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

But why? "Extremely banned", what the fuck?

[-] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 12 points 1 year ago

Extreme baby! sounds of explosions and massive fireballs

The guy was not just 'perma banned', they rolled out the fucking carpet for him while there was heavy metal playing in the background.

'Extremely banned™' was the closest way to even begin describing how utterly hard the guy was banned.

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[-] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Threw me off so hard!

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

as opposed to gently banned a little bit

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

It means banned but like giga banned

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[-] raptir@lemdro.id 17 points 1 year ago

I love that you take ownership of your mistakes. I'll be putting this in your annual review.

[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

This is making me miss the hobbydrama sub. I love this petty shit.

[-] idealotus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Was thinking the same thing. I'd read a lengthy diatribe about Wiki drama (again).

[-] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's just a mentally ill attention seaker and probably has some form of obsessive disorder.
He'll be back, there's no doubt.
It's best to fade this news into the background as fast as possible so he gets nothing out of it.

[-] localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

Wonder how many reddit subs this person 'moderates'

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[-] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Is it the same person who runs awkwardtheturtle account?

Sorry to anyone who had their PTSD triggered by seeing that username

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

Everybody who isn't you, is Unidan.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You just reminded me that everyone on reddit is a bot. Which... is getting closer to the actual truth these days.

[-] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Here's the thing...

[-] Solarius 18 points 1 year ago

I've had personal experience dealing with them and they're by far the worst and most narcissistic individual I've had the displeasure of interacting with.

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

What's their deal? I never paid much mind to that whole side of reddit when I was on there. They just modded a bunch of subs or something right?

[-] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They modded several subs, including r/advice and /offmychest. They were incredibly touchy and prone to calling people stupid for not understanding their convoluted rules. I got banned for responding to a post that they deemed to be on the wrong sub. They didn't have time to create a copy-paste to redirect people to what they thought was a more appropriate sub, but they did have time to write individual replies about how stupid I am and how I should have learned (not to question them, I guess?)

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[-] monsieur_jean@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Makes me think, how many fediverse accounts has awkwardtheturtle created yet? How many instances are run on his servers? :D

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Are there enough of us here to give them the attention/drama they clearly crave?

[-] sour@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

does awkwardtheturtle know about the fediverse

[-] Lols@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

this is an extraordinarily terrible title

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I mean I thought something wasn't right, a lot of Articles have been rather sus lately

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

🧐🧐

which articles? talk about them on their article talk pages

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Can you share the discussion thread? I’m not going to bother making an account on a forum I’ve never heard of.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
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