I find it especially funny that the forcibly re-opened r/AdviceAnimals is constantly reminding everyone how douchey Reddit is behaving.
this post was submitted on 15 Jun 2023
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I think I've settled here. But I'm glad people are putting up the fight regardless.
Gotta fry the greedy porky boy /u/spez
Only to add some clarification: reddark is only showing you the list of subs that announced they'd go dark versus the amount of those subs that have gone dark.
The exact number is hard to pin down, but reddit claims to have "100k+" active communities.
So 60% of the subs that said they'd go dark are still dark.
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Just a heads up, those 8k subs are just the ones that pledged to go dark. The actual total number of subreddits is much higher.
Still, 60% of subs still participating is much higher than I had expected.
Came to clarify the same. Title is very misleading.
Agreed though, actually surprised at how many are still dark.
Still, 60% of subs still participating is much higher than I had expected.
It doesn't surprise me. Never underestimate apathy.
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I also didn't expect that large of a percentage to continue. It's very rare nowadays for people to resist capitalism and just end up complicit in the end like the Netflix situation.
I'm glad Reddit has a backbone against its tyrant.
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Corrected. Thanks for pointing it out
When you lose 30% of your users because you got greedy about how ‘unprofitable’ your own app was, it’s gonna hurt.
The other significant factor is that even their recently-slashed valuation was based on some degree of projected user growth. If you're trying to IPO and your growth has flattened, it's bad bad news. If your engagement numbers are actively moving backwards, that's catastrophic.
Looking at posts per minute seems like a great way to judge the effect though. I anticipate Reddit, Inc. will attempt to downplay the effect by focusing on numbers that take engagement out of the picture, like Monthly Average Users. If you touch the site once in the month, even by absent-mindedly clicking on a Google result, you'd get counted in that for June. And they wouldn't report the July numbers until August because, golly it's an incomplete month. And by then, their hope is that the world will have moved on.
Internally, I'm sure there aware of the impact. But externally, I believe they'll cherrypick favorable metrics to try and control the narrative for the investing & advertising communities.
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The test will be if they actually lost the users or just lost them for a few days.
True punishment would be active, content rich posters zeroing out their posts and comment history. By doing so, the Google searches - which currently refer a ton of traffic to the site - will start to fade. The body of knowledge- users knowledge, not Reddit’s- is what drives new traffic to the site. I plan to remove my contributions later this month, presuming nothing changes.
15 year redditor, though only with ~250k karma. Scrubbed the crap out of my account. I'll probably still use reddit on desktop for as long as old.reddit exists, but for mobile I'm definitely trying out alternatives.
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Same here, going to do it a few days before the API change just in case they pull some crap to prevent mass scrubbing losses
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They lost more than 30% of their actual users. Of the remaining traffic a portion is just bots. Maybe 10%? Maybe 30%? No idea, but not all of the remaining traffic is real people.
I don’t know. Since the API pricing has not been applied yet, I assume many boys are still running.
2 days will do nothing, give them a week next time we do this
Screw a week, we should have gone indefinite from the start. Spez would have pissed himself
No, he would have immediately replaced the mods with internal people and internal bots, and turned off the "private" option. Frankly, I expect he'll do that anyway, or, in 30 days, a whole bunch of them will be going up on RedditRequest - with a new group of powermods.
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Subs going dark is great but keeping users off is the real goal. I'm not even going to view anything Reddit until corporate pulls back
reddit is dead, it happens to all websites eventually and this is a long time coming. I'll never go back, I'm happy to have found the Fediverse.
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The big test for users is going to be once the apps shut down. Right now, it's still very convenient to browse whatever is left on reddit. On July 1st...we'll see.
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I'm doing my part
I deleted my 10 year old account this morning!
This is the way
I will be doing it later today as well
This is the way
Almost 30% drop in posts per minute probably demonstrates better the real impact this blackout has had. And that's seems pretty drastic. Reddit must feel the impact.
I noticed something weird earlier. I'd taken to doomscrolling r/all and just resigning myself to removing the maximum 100 subreddits roughly in order of annoyance. I had 99 blocked subs before the blackout, and now there are only 69. I don't think private subs would disappear from there, so... maybe those 30 subs just got axed in their entirety.
Either way... nice.
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I deleted my 12 year old account history after the "AMA" with Spez and will be fully deleting my account on the 30th. That being said I clicked back on reddit today and browsed a bit of what was up and after spending the last few days on kbin and beehaw I don't think I can go back.
The amount of toxicity that I was putting up with on reddit was astounding. I can't believe I didn't notice it was so bad, even on the smaller subs I was active in. I always have referred to reddit as a cesspit with islands of good content, but I think the landscape changed while I wasn't paying attention.
I do hope the protest works and 3rd party devs can continue their wonderful apps, but reddit is kind of over for me regardless. The fediverse somehow feels like the early internet, kinda like going home.
I'm having a similar experience in realising how much toxicity I've normalised on reddit. Going back on there now feels so absurd.
Right there with you, also had a 12 year old account and deleted it. It's absurd how this is going. Federated definitely feels more tight knit and less just a media consumption platform.
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Wait, really? I keep hearing that the whole thing was a disappointment. Hopefully people stick it out long enough to actually force some change, then.
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This is seriously impressive! I think a lot of us were worried this would all collapse after a couple of days. I don’t think they knew how many of us were looking for an excuse to quit. Their mobile site is trash. Their desktop site is trash. Their mobile app is trash. Forcing us to use them was just not a strong bargaining proposition.
Comment levels are back to normal. But those creating the posts, initiating engagement are down and it will probably become worse once the API changes are in effect.
Subreddits are dark and posts will disappear from the Google Index reducing traffic to the site. Many big subs, as r/formula1 or r/apple to name a few, are dark indefinitely.
Moderators, those who keep the platform more or less peaceful, are sick of it - as you can see in the blackout rates.
The casual normie or lurker will see a drop in content, the site will gradually or exponentially loose its top value users and become a Facebook.
Or not. We'll know in a few months to come, the internet is a fast paced place.
For me this blackout should have 6 months at minimun. 3 days do nothing at all.
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And subs which weren't closed are also flooded by posts supporting the blackout and shaming spez. So the post activity we see here is even inflated by protest posts.
I'm surprised the admin haven't taken over and unprivated subs and demoted mods. Any guesses to when that'll happen?
It happened once but I haven't heard of any other cases
It felt really good to delete my reddit account. I hadn't logged in or posted in months, and just lurked for a while. I was amazed at how toxic it had become. Reddit angries up the blood! (to paraphrase Grampa Simpson)
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Revoking the API really felt like one of those, "pull-up the ladder," moments. The API access and the choice of 3rd party UI's it allowed seemed like part of Reddit's initial community-focused strategy, a method to drive people there from other platforms by being more open and accessible by allowing people to experience it the way they wanted. Then, they stupidly pulled a Digg by revoking that with no way back.
any guesses to when the admin demote the mods?
Friday afternoon/evening to avoid as much media coverage as possible
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According to the the article's own source, https://blackout.photon-reddit.com, traffic is pretty much back to what it was before the black out. Not sure where they are getting that large drop from. Unless they are cherry picking a high start and finishing somewhere in the middle of the normal daily ebb and flow.
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I've been slowly using reddit less and less as I've been getting accustomed to Lemmy and while it definitely has its problems I'd rather deal with those than let reddit think they can push around the people who make their site even possible to exist
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