How it feels talking to my father.

They’re dumber than dogshit, there’s gotta be a way to convince them to shoot each other.

I don't, you're right, and for that I am glad. My friends are reasonable people and that's more than most can say.

If you are around people like that, you seriously need to cut them out of your life temporarily so they don't end up hurting you in the next few years, and I am being 100% serious about that. Everything the extremists are saying and doing mirrors what the German people did during the rise of Hitler in the 1930's, and they can and will report your ass and have you sent off to a concentration camp by the end of the decade if you're stupid enough to hang around trash like that.

The family members who were like that back then were the worst, and it's the same now.

I would even go so far as to recommend LGBTQ+ folk who live amongst fascist types to not come out to them at all and to do everything possible to save money and move far away from them, and to sanctuary cities, before the shit hits the fan. And those turds are awfully close to the blades...

You are thinking about it incorrectly, there will never be pitched battles, states wouldn't secede, there won't be a war. If there is a sustained conflict it will look much more like the Troubles in Northern Ireland. There will be right wing actors and paramilitaries operating in a decentralized manner. They will start attacking individuals and infrastructure. Leading to a general state of fear. In response left wing actors will form small paramilitary cells to defend/get revenge. Mostly based on a belief that the police are either unable to or intentionally not stopping the right wing actors. As things escalate states will mostly likely be required to call up national guard troops to serve in a law enforcement role. One that they will mostly be untrained for. This will lead to abuses of power most likely in the form of arbitrary detention, torture and forced confessions. Mostly likely against both sides. This will just harden resolve and increase distrust of the government. And of course there will be the rise of political actors on both sides. Ones that most likely will not have any direct control of the paramilitaries but will use their bully pulpits to direct action while maintaining the appearance of freedom of speech. In the meantime the federal government may be so paralyzed by partisanship that it is incapable of taking meaningful action.

Yeah I don't sleep well... Sorry if you all don't now either.

I dunno... I keep coming back to a thing I read recently about how most people back in Nazi Germany didn't want to exterminate all the Jews.

they just didn't care.

Yeah. These people largely couldn't be bothered to get vaccinated for their fellow Americans, something tells me they're not gonna go get themselves shot by the US military for their fellow Americans either to any significant degree.

I also sincerely doubt that they could self-organize well enough. Most of them seem to think that they would wave their guns around and the evil liberals would surrender.

Think back to the 2020 national uprising.

Well, they will control the military when Trump wins back the white house.

Where is here?

Yugoslavia seems like a more equivalent comparison, but fair