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I don't understand how anyone thinks an 81 year old person should be leader of a nation. And will they ever produce good stuff instead of what they've been trying and failing to do for so many years and it hurts the people.

When will they help the citizens instead of funding the military and fancy projects that waste money, cutting taxes for billionaires and raising them for the poor, cut social security, cut medicare, cut this, cut that, more money to the military.

So messed up.

I don't know good places to find accurate news.

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[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 42 points 10 months ago

Focusing purely on the question in the headline, a party usually doesn't put forward other candidates when the president runs for a second term. Incumbents often have certain advantages.

[-] dulcemaria@lemdro.id 5 points 10 months ago

And I would guess if Biden dies before then or has some major issue then they might use Gavin Newsom.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

If he dies, it's Kamala Harris. There's no time to get every Democrat behind any other option, and she polled better than Biden in that big NYT poll anyway.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

Has she actually done much of anything at all? I mean I know you don't normally hear much about what the vp is up to, but I really haven't heard anything about Harris.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I doubt they’d run her. She hasn’t been very visible or popular.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

they might use Gavin Newsom.

I'd say he's too far to the left for the party, but not after his veto spree earlier this year.

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[-] neptune@dmv.social 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Considering we have a two party system, game theory implies we will vote between the 81 year old guy who has some idea of what he is doing and the 77 year old guy who maybe just finally after seven years figured out how to start a fascist regime.

If we could somehow change the status quo, I'm not even certain who the "good candidates" would be. Warren is 74 and Sanders is 82.

Our media, gerrymandering and attention spans have led to a place where everyone who is famous and wants the job are criminally nuts.

Yeah I think I'll stick with Biden until Harris and Newsom are ready to fight about who is next.

I don't know a place to find accurate news.

What does this mean? You can't just trust one need source. It starts with learning about political science and history. And learning more and more. And then reading multiple new sources. That's the only way you'll get context. Being engaged and having the background information.

[-] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago

There are a lot of popular Democratic governors who have had legislative success in their states over the past several years. They're going to be the ones that have the best chance at a nomination in 2028. If Biden is re elected President and gets a Democratic Congress he'll probably be able to do things that will make those governors even more popular.

If Trump is President I don't think we have to worry about elections again.

Oh, and if Biden wins next year I think the Republican Party will go into full meltdown mode for the next several years, which will be an opportunity for the Democratic Party to flourish.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

If Biden is re elected President and gets a Democratic Congress he’ll probably be able to do things that will make those governors even more popular.

Provided congress doesn't do it's usual "Whoopsie! We managed to find exactly enough votes to block this!" routine that they've been doing since at least 2009.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Yes. This isn't about who is best. This is about maximizing chance for survival.

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[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago

If you're expecting change and only focus on and vote during Presidential elections, you're gonna have a bad time. Congress is in charge of all the budgetary concerns you're talking about. Before the shit show of the current Congress, they passed the inflation reduction act which is huge for average Americans.

Even in the limited cases where Biden can make meaningful changes in the lives of Americans, like his plan for student loan forgiveness, the Republican nominated Supreme Court judges blocked it.

If your state has closed primaries, make sure you're registered and vote during primaries. This is the only way progressive candidates will make it on the ballot.

As for the news, try listening to NPR Now when you have 5 minutes a day and go from there.

[-] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Would be great, but nobody has been groomed for it and with FPTP voting still in place in virtually all states, this is not the time to be selecting a different POTUS. The 2028 campaign should be planning now with the right candidate if your want a change, but you need to be working towards changing the voting process in your state.

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Are there any other people being considered for president by Democrats?

You mean the DNC? Yes. For example, Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson.

I don't understand how anyone thinks an 81 year old person should be leader of a nation.

Biden isn't even in the top ten of world leaders by age. Here they are:

President of Cameroon: 90 President of the PNA (Palestine, non-Hamas version): 88 King of Saudi Arabia: 87 Pope of the Vatican: 86 King of Norway: 86 Emir of Kuwait: 86 Supreme Leader of Iran: 84 Queen of Denmark: 83 President of Ireland: 82 President of Italy: 82

When will they help the citizens instead of funding the military and fancy projects that waste money, cutting taxes for billionaires and raising them for the poor, cut social security, cut medicare, cut this, cut that, more money to the military.

Who are "they"?

If you mean America's leaders, never, not until we implement voting reform. Unless and until then, they will be fueled by corruption, not the will of the people. This is not politician specific, although there are rare exceptions, like Bernie Sanders.

I don't know good places to find accurate news.

Reuters.

[-] matrixrunner@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[-] osarusan@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

There's two big reasons Biden is going to be the candidate:

  1. Biden has already won an election (3 if you count his time as VP). He's been tried and tested and won. The system will always prefer the candidate who has proven they can win over someone who is untested. Thus, without some extreme circumstances, incumbents always have a huge advantage over newcomers.

  2. Biden is an extremely experienced politician. He has more experience than most people in Washington, and is an expert at reaching across the isles and cooperating with other politicians. He knows the game like nobody else and he's damn good at it. A good president has to work with those they agree with and those they disagree with, and Biden can do that.

The age question isn't as serious as you think it is. The president is the leader and the face of the Executive Branch, but he isn't the one doing all the work. There are tons of people around him who share the workload of the actual business of the Office of the President. It's not a one man job.

As to your "when" question, the answer is when they can. We're skating by on razor-thin margins right now, and have been for a long time. When our lawmaking body is split 51 vs 49, and you need 66 or more to pass any meaningful legislation, you need someone who is really good at reaching across the isle. And you also need lawmakers who are willing to compromise. What that means is that voting out the bad fanatics and voting in reasonable people of conscience is as important as ever. While one half of Congress is filled with fundamentalists, nothing will ever get done no matter who is president.

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[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't understand how anyone thinks an 81 year old person should be leader of a nation. And will they ever produce good stuff instead of what they've been trying and failing to do for so many years and it hurts the people.

When will they help the citizens instead of funding the military and fancy projects that waste money, cutting taxes for billionaires and raising them for the poor, cut social security, cut medicare, cut this, cut that, more money to the military.

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[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Being considered by Democrats" meaning, there are Democrats thinking they should run, sure.

"Being considered by Democrats" meaning running in the Democratic primary for president, no. There are no serious candidates other than Biden running in the primary.

Trump didn't have any substantial Republicans running against him when he was the incumbent president (IIRC they didn't even hold Republican primaries in some states in 2020), he was similarly unpopular and happened to lose so who knows if it's good strategy, but strong candidates usually wait for the incumbent in their party to lose or be term limited out.

When will they help the citizens instead of funding the military and fancy projects that waste money, cutting taxes for billionaires and raising them for the poor, cut social security, cut medicare, cut this, cut that, more money to the military.

For what it's worth Biden hasn't cut taxes for billionaires and he actually directed the IRS to focus on people making over $400k/yr, and targeted all tax increases to that same group. Neither party has cut social security or Medicare recently. Both parties have increased military spending so that's a legit complaint.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Nope. No political party will voluntarily abandon a sitting elected official in an attempt to re-gain their seat.

[-] Burninator05@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

While I acknowledge Biden's age, his currently presumptive opponent is effectively just as old and makes as many verbal gaffs. I find it dishonest and misleading to only point out Biden's age.

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[-] paf0@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It's tradition to go with the President if that person still wants the job. He'd have to say he no longer wants to run for the party to consider other contenders. Ideally he will remember how old he is sometime in the next couple of months and a boring centrist like Newsom will run in his place.

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[-] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

For people that are actually running no. I mean, theres Dean Philips but nobody has heard of him. Theres also Cenk Ugyhur but its not even clear if he can leagally run.

In terms of the larger democratic party there is only one person ive heard both sides of the fence speak favorably of. JB Pritzker of Illinois. But he isn't running nor has he said he will.

Counting out Newsom and Whitmer. They are too hated to be able to win the presidency. I dont care if they are successful in their states.

There's also Manchin but I believe if he runs he will go independent / No Labels Party. I do believe if he went against Trump as Democrat he would win. There are enough republicans and never-trumpers who will support him. Alas he has only hinted at a run, not confirmed anything.

I don't think there is anyone else unless a celebrity or complete leftfield candidate shows up.

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