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PlayStation Portal review: impressive hardware but is Remote Play itself good enough? (www.eurogamer.net)
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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago (28 children)

I genuinely just don't understand the value proposition of this handheld. It's remote play only, with no standalone capabilities, that also only works with the PS5. You could use your existing phone, and receive exactly the same product. Or if you're committed to buying a handheld, you could absolutely get a Steam Deck, still receive the remote functionality, but also have a system that can not only play your PC games, but play like 5 generations of console games from the past

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's good for a niche market, people who have multiple people living in the house where they have to share a TV, but don't need to share the PlayStation. In that one niche it makes sense to me

In every other way though, why not a handheld?

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I think that niche might be bigger and more normal than you think it is.

Why a handheld if 99% of people don't want to use it outside of the house and just want a home-portsble

Edit to just point out how disappointed I am in this community lately. It's become all the things that made me dislike reddit. The circlejerk here is just as strong, and all the discussions we had initially are gone in favor of updooting my opinion and downdooting everyone else.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah it was odd to read that description being presented as an oddity - that sounds like most households I know. If you have a wife, kids, or roommate and don't enjoy being holed up in your own room the whole time you play (and those sharing your house don't just want to watch you game all night) then in house streaming is a huge boon.

I PC game, but most of my gaming is done on the couch, streamed onto my phone. I've been very tempted to buy a dedicated streaming device lately to avoid draining my phone battery while playing

[–] Gamoc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's an oddity because there's already multiple devices in most homes that can remote play, paying for a device that can ONLY remote play is about the stupidest waste of money I can think of when I have two phones, a PC, a laptop and a tablet that can all do the same thing. Hell if you plug in an ethernet cable the PC and laptop well do it better.

It could have been a cool device if you could use it to stream from PS+/Now, but you can't. It could be cool if it had like a vita in it or something so you could play vita games, but it didn't. It's an idea with potential, but they shoved all that potential in a bin and instead released something that's completely useless unless it's connected to your PS5. What a waste.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's completely useless, unless you want to play your ps5 in the same kind of way you play a nintendo switch. In which case it works super well.

it turns out a lot of people want that. People could stick a laptop on their lap and get out a controller and play nintendo switch on that too, but that's a pain. people just want a thing they can pick up. and they are happy to have it. even if you are angry about it.

[–] Gamoc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's multiple devices that allow you to play your PS5 like a Switch, and they all do more.

I'm not angry, you can have opinions about things you're not angry about. I'm disappointed that Sony charged as much as possible for the bare minimum again, just a lack of ambition and abundance of cost.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

we all think that it costs too much don't worry, but also you should understand the value proposition it has. people are paying "too much" because it serves a real function.

no, we don't want to hogtie a controller to a phone, we want the nice ergonomics of a playstation controller all built together. it's worth understanding that value.

[–] FullFridge@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Agreed, people on here can't seem to understand how this product could be successful? Every post about it on here has the same upvoted comments about how people should get a Steam Deck instead. If someone comments about why they like it or are happy with it, it gets downvoted.

Personally I probably won't ever buy one of these but to act like your opinion about something as unimportant as a this is better than everyone else's screams of reddit to me. Why not just let people be happy with their purchase?

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Edit to just point out how disappointed I am in this community lately. It's become all the things that made me dislike reddit. The circlejerk here is just as strong, and all the discussions we had initially are gone in favor of updooting my opinion and downdooting everyone else.

This has been Lemmy wide and growing substantially. I’m put off and disappointed as well.

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[–] aCosmicWave@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Most of my games are on PlayStation. The Steam Deck is clearly the more powerful and capable device, but it is also more expensive and I have no need for any of the extra features. I love the ergonomics of the PS Portal (even though it looks silly), the haptics, the huge screen, and it all comes with a seamless integration into the PlayStation ecosystem. Plus there is no need to take the case off of my phone every time I want to play it unlike the Backbone.

It’s definitely not for everyone but they call it a DadStation for a reason ☺️.

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[–] objectionist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

steam deck is single-handedly the best gaming purchase i think i’ve ever made

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I don't understand what market the PlayStation Portal was designed for.

You're basically paying £200 for a DualSense controller MacGyver'd on a tablet screen that can only remote play PS5 games or stream from PSNow. There are both cheaper and better options which support not just Sony's ecosystem but also other gaming platforms.

Not to mention that cloud gaming in general just sucks.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

It can’t even stream from PSNow it’s just for remote play lol

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cloud gaming doesn’t suck. You can literally play Half Life Alyx on a Quest from a cloud PC and it works great. This all depends on your location and cloud pc of course.

[–] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Playing a VR game wirelessly from your own PC is not "cloud gaming"

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago

He's talking about cloud PCs like Shadow offers: https://shadow.tech/en-NL/shadowpc/offers

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The fuck are you talking about? You can do what I’m saying from a remote cloud PC.

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[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I was under the impression it was a lot more than $200, but that still seems costly for what it does. For $100 more you can get an AYN Odin 2 which does a hell of a lot more stuff for the price.

[–] SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com 3 points 2 years ago

I mean it's an 8in 1080p touch screen display at 60hz, the panel is probably around $60, the hardware is probably like a pi zero so $20, and a controller $70. So just on hardware this is probably around $120 after taking into account supply chain discounts. Then, manufacturing costs, and they probably don't even have that high of a profit margin on the device. Add in a $100 for the actually chip set and yeah you get more features but it's not that crazy imo. Just a niche market for sure.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

For twice the price you get a base model steam deck

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

They could at least add Vita compatibility and it'll instantly has hundreds of games available. A shame since Vita itself can play PSP and PS1 titles.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Sony, adding Vita support to this product? Dude, they didn't even add Wifi 6, I think that was easier and definitely would work to their end goal 😆

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[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 years ago

Betteridge's law of headlines says no.

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