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Unhappy with Lemmy (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by darkstar@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works
 

I'm really not happy with Lemmy so far. Its a great community and a cool concept, but the amount of bugs I am experiencing is really starting to put me off.

The site constantly updates / glitches, when I try click on something it moves just before I click so I end up clicking on something else. If I open a post, as soon as I go back the entire home feed is different and my sorting preferences have been reset.

As someone coming from the refinement from Apollo this really is offputting and makes me want to use Lemmy even less.

The people here are great, the federation is cool and I like how decentralized it is, but I think I'm going to log off now and I don't expect to be back anytime soon.

Ps. A functioning app I can download directly from the app store would be great. I'm not interested in progressive web apps or testflight betas, I want something that just works and is well refined.

Edit: I understand its early days, I'm not faulting devs for not being able to keep up, all I am doing here is expressing my opinion. I'm also sad about losing Apollo so that definitely adds to my disappointment quite a bit if I'm being honest.

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[–] plum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I’m not sure if you will find much sympathy here. Many people (myself included) left Reddit because their policies and ethics now outweigh the benefits of a refined, smooth experience. Although, even that may be gone now if you’re switching from Apollo to the default Reddit app…

The communities here have made any occasional glitches worth it for me.

P.S. you can set your sorting preference under Settings.

[–] AllYourSmurf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

It’s very early. There are a lot of great ideas here, but also a lot of details yet to be worked out. Also lots of bugs.

I wasn’t on Reddit in the early days, but I expect it had problems too. I know twitter did.

If you’re a developer or have any skill in that area, I’d encourage you to contribute. If not, I’d ask for 2 things:

  1. Have patience and a bit of grace with the devs, operators, and mods, especially in these early days.
  2. Get active and talk about what you want and what’s not working for you.

This is your chance to help make “Thing n+1” better than “Thing n”. Chances like that don’t come around very often.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I guess I don't notice any of this because I'm on jerboa. Haven't had complaints with the app.

[–] Fourth@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Jerboa has been very good for me.

[–] HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I'm actually having the opposite peoblem. Jerboa sometimes refuses to load communities citing java exceptions, and loading up a thread takes a long time. Browsing on PC has been fantastic, on the other hand.

[–] intelati@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's so close to the reddit apps It's throwing me a loop. But yeah. Other than the hot feed bug It's been 'good' for me

[–] baascus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most have been here less than a week. It will take time. The Fediverse was not created with the intention of toppling Reddit in one week. Many of the bugs that people have been complaining about are being fixed in the next release.

[–] yo_accountant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

100% agree. I will deal with bugs today because I can see the benefits of decentralization. Yes it's buggy, but I know that we, the community, are fixing it. And that we are making the service better as users and not in some top-down decision making way.

[–] scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Also maybe it's just me but I find people's lack of patience to deal with a few bugs really strange. Yes I've come across bugs and intermittent connection issues but it's not really the end of the world and knowing that the Devs and admins of each instance are working hard to keep things turning over is enough for me... I'll just do something else for a bit. It was the same when Reddit would go down or what ever.

[–] loren@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you expected someone's fledgling project that's just getting started to be as polished and refined as something that's had thousands of dev hours over the last 5-10 years then that's just bad expectations management. It will get better.

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I understand its early days, not faulting the devs here, I'm just expressing how I feel

[–] mars296@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

You should give kbin.social a shot. It works better than lemmy currently. I made an account on lemmy.world and kbin.social and end up spending my time on kbin. Even on mobile with no app, I find the user experience better. I am sure it will get better for all instances with time.

[–] hakdragon@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

kbin isn't bad, but it's been plagued with 500 errors - probably due to the massive influx of new users/instances.

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[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Makes sense that kbin works better as kbin actually let me register I had trouble even trying to register on 3 different instances before someone recommended kbin because, and I quote, "it just works."

[–] can@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kbin definitely has the better front page algorithms atm.

[–] Routhinator@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Kbin is lacking the filtering for NSFW content though and there's a lot of sketch making it into the frontpage on kbin is very noticeable so for now I have an account here and on a Lemmy instance and I use Lemmy more. Kbin is for when I can be more careful with my scrolling.

[–] speck@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Isn't there a setting in your profile to block NSFW? Or is not working fully?

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[–] xiao@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I understand you but...

pls be patient, stay with us.

Many skilled (and less skilled) people are working hard and cooperating to make Lemmy better week are week.

(Pretty sure Aaron Swartz would have loved that)

Love the project 😎

[–] cantankerousnuts@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago

Found u/Spez

/s

[–] cappslocke 1 points 2 years ago

Give it time, but don’t stop giving feedback. Every platform is buggy in the beginning.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Yup. It's buggy and the native apps are pretty rough. I'm trying to give it a chance. I suspect the original Reddit was pretty rough too.

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

it was pretty bad. I used it a bit before everyone left digg and it took a good while after that for it to feel "polished".

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The original Reddit was definitely rough. But it was also an open source project and grew with time, until the company closed-sourced it in 2017 and went with the new redesign (which remains controversial with older redditors even now).

Tbf the fediverse (and Lemmy & Kbin as Reddit alternatives) is in a very impressive state for something that has been fairly small scale up to now. It'll improve faster given the increased interest and as new devs decide to pitch in. Early reddit was exciting and chaotic; its a good time to be on a site like this.

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Agreed, the original reddit was rough, definitely much worse than Lemmy currently is now. For the amount of growth Lemmy has seen its holding up well, I just wish it was better. Maybe I'm impatient..

[–] snakesnakewhale@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

in 2017 and went with the new redesign

Christ, was it that long ago? I am old.

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[–] Huschke@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was also really unhappy with it. Then I tried kbin.social. It's not a lemmy instance, but also uses the fediverse so you can still see and interact with posts from other lemmy instances.

[–] whenitallgoeswrong@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The fediverse thing makes me feel like I'm in the dust. I thought Kbin was its own federated thing, separate from Lemmy. Like there are decentralized federated Kbin nodes as its own thing, and decentralized Lemmy nodes as its own thing. But Lemmy and Kbin intermingle?

I feel like I need something like that old UK/GreatBritain/British Isles infographic, but for Kbin, Lemmy, Mastodon, and whatever else springs up.

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[–] druppel@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago

I do have quite a laundry list of remarks for Lemmy too. The bugginess and lack of features is understandable. But it is quite centralized and I see a future where it will be more centralized the more users will join due to a bit of a fundemental flaw of federation.

Maybe these problems will be fixable. I hope so, because I think it is a really cool concept. But I am not sure if I agree with the execution of it. I would love to contribute to this project if these problems are fixable.

[–] wccrawford@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

I'm not using an app, but rather the site directly on a PC. I've been pretty happy with the experience so far, and it's become something that I check regularly now. I'm looking forward to the communities becoming larger and having more content.

Of course, I'm also looking forward to the mobile experience improving for others, too.

[–] Stweaner@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

My big issue is that I haven't found a good setting for my home feed that consistently updates. I've had the same posts at the top of hot/all and active/all since I started, it's difficult to find posts that have any activity that aren't multiple days old because of this

[–] yo_accountant@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

It's a known bug that the next version will address. I have been using "top of the day" and "new." New has been a great way for me to find new communities.

[–] hschen@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah the hot/active algorithm just doesnt work anymore. It worked fine the first week i was here but ever since lemmy blew up its shown the same threads at the top which kinda sucks

[–] can@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

They're changing how it sorts in v0.18

I believe the current setting was configured with the old less active community in mind.

Now with more users and posts things will have to change.

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[–] Gruqaex@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just try kbin.social instead. I much prefer it currently vs lemmy's frontend.

[–] Jitzilla@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I’m confused; isn’t this kbin.social?

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[–] tomve_cz@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Running any kind of social network / website (or whatever you call it) is messy.

Content, traffic, servers and users - everyone knows the best.

So I respect anyone who runs any instance and I don't mind bugs etc. Twitter, FB, reddit they were also buggy and full of backend mess.

So just don't be upset because of bugs. Take it like a price for freedom for tech corp(s).

OT: I'm paying for own email, vpn and others stuff every month so big techs have minimum info about me ... I also have 6 browser and every single of them is for something.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The sorting bug definitely needs fixed ASAP. Hot is stale, top posts somehow start sending new posts, and posts from other instances are often slow.

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[–] SuperV1@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

From appolo to jarboa, idk if it's a fair comparison. Even the browser has its perks compared to jarboa but I still use it, i will do the same thing I did with the Reddit app all those years ago, give it a chance, use it, report buggs, give feedback, enjoy the updates.

[–] passport@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was using the official reddit app (gasp) before this, using Jerboa now and it feels just as smooth if not smoother?

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm on iOS so Jerboa isnt an option :(

[–] can@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Did you try Mlem?

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago

I'm extremely happy with Lemmy and I actually think the bugs give it charm. It make it feel more like home. No big corporations. I'm fine with limited content and problems for the time being. I'll take it over Reddit any day.

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