If you expected someone's fledgling project that's just getting started to be as polished and refined as something that's had thousands of dev hours over the last 5-10 years then that's just bad expectations management. It will get better.
I understand its early days, not faulting the devs here, I'm just expressing how I feel
You should give kbin.social a shot. It works better than lemmy currently. I made an account on lemmy.world and kbin.social and end up spending my time on kbin. Even on mobile with no app, I find the user experience better. I am sure it will get better for all instances with time.
kbin isn't bad, but it's been plagued with 500 errors - probably due to the massive influx of new users/instances.
I’m not sure if you will find much sympathy here. Many people (myself included) left Reddit because their policies and ethics now outweigh the benefits of a refined, smooth experience. Although, even that may be gone now if you’re switching from Apollo to the default Reddit app…
The communities here have made any occasional glitches worth it for me.
P.S. you can set your sorting preference under Settings.
Yup. It's buggy and the native apps are pretty rough. I'm trying to give it a chance. I suspect the original Reddit was pretty rough too.
The original Reddit was definitely rough. But it was also an open source project and grew with time, until the company closed-sourced it in 2017 and went with the new redesign (which remains controversial with older redditors even now).
Tbf the fediverse (and Lemmy & Kbin as Reddit alternatives) is in a very impressive state for something that has been fairly small scale up to now. It'll improve faster given the increased interest and as new devs decide to pitch in. Early reddit was exciting and chaotic; its a good time to be on a site like this.
Agreed, the original reddit was rough, definitely much worse than Lemmy currently is now. For the amount of growth Lemmy has seen its holding up well, I just wish it was better. Maybe I'm impatient..
Give it time, but don’t stop giving feedback. Every platform is buggy in the beginning.
I understand you but...
pls be patient, stay with us.
Many skilled (and less skilled) people are working hard and cooperating to make Lemmy better week are week.
(Pretty sure Aaron Swartz would have loved that)
Love the project 😎
Most have been here less than a week. It will take time. The Fediverse was not created with the intention of toppling Reddit in one week. Many of the bugs that people have been complaining about are being fixed in the next release.
100% agree. I will deal with bugs today because I can see the benefits of decentralization. Yes it's buggy, but I know that we, the community, are fixing it. And that we are making the service better as users and not in some top-down decision making way.
Also maybe it's just me but I find people's lack of patience to deal with a few bugs really strange. Yes I've come across bugs and intermittent connection issues but it's not really the end of the world and knowing that the Devs and admins of each instance are working hard to keep things turning over is enough for me... I'll just do something else for a bit. It was the same when Reddit would go down or what ever.
I guess I don't notice any of this because I'm on jerboa. Haven't had complaints with the app.
It's so close to the reddit apps It's throwing me a loop. But yeah. Other than the hot feed bug It's been 'good' for me
It’s very early. There are a lot of great ideas here, but also a lot of details yet to be worked out. Also lots of bugs.
I wasn’t on Reddit in the early days, but I expect it had problems too. I know twitter did.
If you’re a developer or have any skill in that area, I’d encourage you to contribute. If not, I’d ask for 2 things:
This is your chance to help make “Thing n+1” better than “Thing n”. Chances like that don’t come around very often.
Lemmy is very new software currently only at v0.17.4
If you're here then you're getting the real Early Adopter experience. That isn't for everybody.
I was using the official reddit app (gasp) before this, using Jerboa now and it feels just as smooth if not smoother?
I'm on iOS so Jerboa isnt an option :(
Did you try Mlem?
My condolences to your past self and congratulations to your current self!
I'm using jerboa. It's very similar to rif. I had zero expectations coming in. And that's probably a big part of why I like it.
It's definitely buggy. Clunky. Etc. But I'm here for it, and I'm curious what becomes of it. It's actually pretty intuitive, and the bugs will be ironed out as we go. It's kind of like everything in life. It's what we make it. And I really vibe with that.
Tbh I don't need perfect or easy. It's home brew decentralized version of reddit. I can deal. But I understand your concerns and agree with all of them, but I'm just kind of enjoying the journey and viewing it as it's own experience.
You can't really expect an amateur project led by 2 people (or 1 in case of kbin) to be comparable to a decade of reddit development. Even the Apollo app, that just built in top of other tech instead of having to reinvent the wheel, is at least 5 years old by now afaik.
If you just care about convenience then reddit is still your best bet. If you have other concerns then you need to weight which one matters more.
I'm not using an app, but rather the site directly on a PC. I've been pretty happy with the experience so far, and it's become something that I check regularly now. I'm looking forward to the communities becoming larger and having more content.
Of course, I'm also looking forward to the mobile experience improving for others, too.
I'm sour about losing Sync, but have you tried Jerboa? It's absolutely not as feature-complete yet as any of the big 3rd party reddit clients were, but it feels totally familiar and I've been happy using it so far.
I'm extremely happy with Lemmy and I actually think the bugs give it charm. It make it feel more like home. No big corporations. I'm fine with limited content and problems for the time being. I'll take it over Reddit any day.
I want something that just works and is well refined.
Not trying to be rude or anything but, if you are trying to replace reddit with another reddit this won't work out for you. Lemmy is not and will never be Reddit. It will never have the same functions and bugs will show up sometimes, why?, because this project is funded by normal people, they aren't making any money at all.
I'm not saying that you should be ashamed of expressing your opinion, but please keep in mind that this project is fueled by passion and love. You could focus your time in trying to make it better rather than just pointing out problems that people are actively trying to solve.
It'll get better with time but yeah I agree it's clunky and buggy at the moment. Kbin (kbin.social or fedia.io) seems to be a more stable alternative but have their own bugs and issues.
I'm not sure I'd give up on it though; maybe come back and forth and see how it gets on. It isn't meant to be an instant Reddit replacement, but the increased interest will spur more people to help with development and some communities seem to be reaching critical mass to be sustainable.
The sorting bug definitely needs fixed ASAP. Hot is stale, top posts somehow start sending new posts, and posts from other instances are often slow.
Yes this is exactly what I am experiencing as well
My big issue is that I haven't found a good setting for my home feed that consistently updates. I've had the same posts at the top of hot/all and active/all since I started, it's difficult to find posts that have any activity that aren't multiple days old because of this
I sort all/new or subscribed/new and just scroll. I'm subbing to a vast array of communities I wouldn't have otherwise and I've found a number of really good reads and discussions. If there was a way to hide already viewed threads it would make the experience much better, but I can live with it for now.
FWIW most of the glitches are in the official web UI, so using another UI (e.g. Jerboa on Android) fixes most of the issues.
I'm mostly just getting a few bugs on sh.itjust.works and I've got no idea where to get support from here. I'm sure it'll all get sorted in time.
Jerboa for Lemmy (the app) is pretty good though mostly. It's no RedditIsFun but it's functional enough.
The real solution is for the developer of apollo to make it work as a lemmy client. You should probably let him know.
How much are you willing to pay for this?
Understandable, maybe you can come back in the future when hopefully some of these bugs are ironed out and apps like Mlem are out of alpha.
lol you should have seen what reddit was like 15 years ago.
I do have quite a laundry list of remarks for Lemmy too. The bugginess and lack of features is understandable. But it is quite centralized and I see a future where it will be more centralized the more users will join due to a bit of a fundemental flaw of federation.
Maybe these problems will be fixable. I hope so, because I think it is a really cool concept. But I am not sure if I agree with the execution of it. I would love to contribute to this project if these problems are fixable.
I was also really unhappy with it. Then I tried kbin.social. It's not a lemmy instance, but also uses the fediverse so you can still see and interact with posts from other lemmy instances.
Home of the sh.itjust.works instance.
