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    (screenshot of a rxvt window decorated with a fvwm theme. The title bar is rotated to the left and highlighted in red with white text, and reads 'marada@kalutika:~'.

    The window is green-on-black and contains a vim session with the text 'You may not like it, but this is what peak desktop performance looks like.

    Each window has a clear, square border around the edge. You know where one window ends and the next begins, and exactly where you can drag to resize them, even if you stack one Dark Mode window slightly ajar of another.

    There's a titlebar that has a huge segment which can be clicked and dragged to move the window, rather than tiny icons and a search bar eating up all but a handful of pixels. The active window has a distinct colour you can immediately pick out.

    That title bar is mounted on the side, so it's not consuming precious screen real estate when the trend is towards 52:9 aspect-ratio ultrawide monitors whichbarely have enough vertical space for one full-sized window.

    It's generated by a Window Manager. Not a Desktop Environment. Not a Compositor. It draws windows and menus, and launches other programs. It does not include a mixer, stopwatch timer, Mastodon feed reader, or half the video drivers. It has a memory footprint of fourteen megabytes, and a configuration file format that hasn't meaningfully changed since Bill Clinton was in the WhiteHouse.

    GNOME was a mistake.'

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    [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    GNOME was a mistake.'

    In the beginning the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

    Kde had a massive bloatware episode when they went to 4.0, but they mostly stopped then, while GNOME just kept going and going. We need a new option.

    [–] Rooty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Have you heard the good news of LxQt?

    [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

    I think I ran it, it was OK, but not quite enough of a fix.

    I like it, and with some theming I could love it, but it doesn't beat kde for me yet.

    [–] mryessir 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    It formed XFCE though.

    And with it you can simply create a borderless theme (just save a empty theme file) and move your windows via ALT+click, iff you make use of floating windows.

    I use it now for eight years on multiple laptops and desktops. Otherwise all default settings are sane.

    [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    Xfce is my sane backup, but I usually stick with kde on my main or i3 if I'm feeling spicy (perfect for vnc windows, especially for work).

    [–] Rooty@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Minimalist window managers are fine and dandy if you're churning out code or slinging containers around, but just about any program that runs in a desktop enviroment will need GTK+ or QT libraries. I hope the OP doesn't plan on using a web browser anytime soon.

    [–] HakFoo 8 points 2 years ago

    There's a difference between 'requires GTK or Qt' and 'pulls in several hundred megabytes of dependencies that are pretty much unrelated to the narrow task the tool is built for.'

    [–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    Barebones sway user here. No background, no themes or anything of the sort -- just mash Menu + Ctrl_R and go to town.

    And yes, I had my "check out this ultraminimalsupermegaminimalisticminimaldesktop" phase on my first days of linux and I gave up after realizing that it saved only 3 MiB of memory compared to using a more "normie" setup.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    Technically, tvwm is plenty enough. I ran it for a few years back when the world was young and it did the job just fine.