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Seems like a good portion of the activity in the communities is reddit oriented. If the goal is leaving/hurting reddit, it seems we should be continuing on like it doesn't exist, instead of continuing to drive interest to the site. Thoughts?

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[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not too worried either way. See https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/38559/Killing-a-giant-Reddit - basically whatever happens, happens, and just by being here and not there, the end will probably be accomplished given due time.

[–] thatguyyoumetonce@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

reddit was like this when digg died. it won't make the front page in a few weeks but it'll come up randomly in the comments for decades after

[–] RadioRat@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Personally, it's nice to be getting news of Reddit without giving them any traffic. It'll be old news eventually and I'm not a huge fan of shutting down natural discussion.

[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This place kinda seems like that sloshed guy at the bar who unprompted keeps talking about how over his ex he is.

[–] arcticpiecitylights@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Some of us are going through an actual grieving process over losing reddit. That place was my online home for like 15 years. It's the kind of thing that definitely deserves drunk-bar-ranting.

[–] OofShoot@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

That's it! I'm getting shit-faced!

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah I think people are underestimating how much time was invested. Imagine if Gmail just up and vanished and you had to use something else after being so invested, ofcourse people are going to be talking about it for ages until the annoyance passes

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[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It'll happen on its own. Right now, that's sort of akin to asking New Yorkers on Sept. 15, 2001, why everyone's still talking about the attacks.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol did you just call this Redditor's 9/11?

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Hyperbole, but selected because Reddit is still on fire. Fires at the WTC were not completely extinguished until Dec. 20, 2001.

[–] CjkOvPDwQW@lemmy.pt 0 points 2 years ago
[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm of the opinion that the fediverse (and more specifically kbin) is my new home to talk about stuff. Reddit's been in the news and on my mind, so why not talk about it? Talking about other platforms isn't necessarily advocating for them. And people are gonna wanna talk about stuff. if not here, then where?

I do think it's important to encourage discussion of topics other than reddit, but to just avoid discussing reddit entirely? idk. Like I'd still talk about facebook, twitter, instagram, etc here if they're relevant and in the news.

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[–] TheAngryBad@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

It's the one thing that all (or most of us, I guess) have in common; we're all here because of what's going on there. It's natural to want to talk about it.

It'll pass; I'm already seeing a lot of non-reddit content on my home feed now, whereas day 1 it was probably 95% posts of the sort you're talking about.

[–] DracEULA@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Half of the content I see on here is about reddit, and they're also some of the most active posts. I feel like anyone looking for an alternative to reddit might take one look around and conclude we don't have much to offer besides bashing reddit.

There had been a daily reddit megathread showing up on my front page, and I thought that was a good middle ground.

[–] sotolf@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The same was the problem with mastodon when we got a lot of users when failon musk bought it, people will get rid of it in a while and we'll get to discuss interesting stuff.

[–] onceuponaban@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Also, the communities that would be providing the interesting stuff in the first place are still in the process of getting settled in.

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[–] zlatiah@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I think there are two aspects to this...

  1. The majority of people on federated message boards (lemmy, beehaw, kbin, etc) are former Reddit users who migrated specifically because of actions by Reddit, so it is natural to talk a bit more about Reddit at least for a short while. I believe this happened for quite a while on Mastodon (Twitter) as well.
  2. It's kinda fun to watch a dumpster fire in action ngl and I don't think this will pass until Reddit finally figures something out themselves...
[–] roving6478@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not a lot much else going on here, sadly.

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[–] Silver_neurotic@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

There are plenty of places to talk about Reddit in other communities around here so it would be nice to focus on other topics in non Reddit related spaces.

[–] thanksbrother@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I say we go a step further and make sure to at least mention Reddit in EVERY post so the web indexers start bringing up these threads when people search “blah blah blah reddit” because Google is terrible without adding reddit to the end of a search string.

[–] onceuponaban@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is a natural result of most of the influx of new users being from Reddit as they're still keeping an eye on it to see how the situation evolves. I expect it to continue happening until at the very least a week after the beginning of July, which I expect will also be a second migration wave since that's when the third party apps will stop working.

It'll settle down eventually. In the meantime, users seem to have been doing a good enough job of keeping those threads on the communities/magazines dedicated to talking about Reddit and/or the relevant migration, so it's probably best to unsubscribe from/block them if you are sick of seeing those in your feed.

[–] CarrierLost@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It’s been said before, but talking through it is a coping mechanism. Like it or not, a lot of people are/were heavily invested in that site, and talking through it is a way to help clear the air and start to move forward.

It’s drama is dominating social media right now, so it’s hard to NOT see it and hear about it, but we all need to let each other move on in the way that’s best for each of us.

[–] Breakfulus_Emphotoga@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is very true, I've noticed I've had more free time and others have as well since the start of the end for reddit, reddit was extremely addictive and now people either have to find an alternative, which isn't easy if you use reddit for most of your information or entertainment, or stay on the platform where worse mods are replacing the subs' old mods and most the site is dead.

I say give it a few or 2 and it should die down a lot more as people become more comfortable with the alternatives they chose.

[–] lurkeymclerkface@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Up vote because I like the term "a few or two"

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[–] winsomecowboy@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Whenever anyone questions what 'we' should do I strongly suspect Hall Monitor tendencies and hamfisted political aspirations. The passive phrasing hides nothing.

I'll talk about what I want. Lets talk about that well worn contradictory canard where you promote something by pretending you want it stifled.

In short, 'we' is just working its collective self out and attempts to steer it at this stage is naive, premature and revealing. IMO

Your premise rests on driving people towards reddit by mentioning it. Hardly a sturdy premise.

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I feel like I'm just about done since Reddit is pretty much irredeemable to me at this point. However, I think we've got at least another month of it to go before everybody's done.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s still fresh, is this thing. Mastodon was like that for a while; there was a lot of talk of twitter and angry posts and Elon Musk. People were still hurt and angry. It takes a while to work through that, so there’s likely going to be a lot of talk about it for a while. But it’ll stop on its own as people start moving on.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

At least Reddit didn't ban mentioning the words kbin, Lemmy, Squabbles etc. Twitter banned the word Mastodon.

One reason I came to kbin was when reddit blocked the kbinmigration sub - hello Streisand effect. In the end that turned out to be an anti spam glitch, but it shows the danger in trying to ban something.

[–] foxtrots@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

As a transplant, my view is that the most productive discussion around reddit is how to replace the spaces people lose when they stop using it. I enjoy beehaw way more than reddit overall, but a lot of my favorite communities don't have equivalents on Lemmy. I didn't use it as a content aggregator, I used it as a community space, and that's much harder to replace.

[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Even if a lot of us weren't on reddit before, it's such a big social media site that it's very relevant and for a while will definitely be an interest on any general forum/link aggregator.

[–] kronicmage@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago
[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I feel the vast majority of new people joining these federated sites are coming from Reddit, so having the discourse centered around getting them in, explaining how things work and so on is pretty important for user adoption.

I know there's an underlying feeling that these redditors are all going to flood the place but the more people using these sites and the more engagement can only be a positive

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago

The discussion about reddit will naturally die overtime but it's probably going to get worse before it gets better.

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[–] EmptyRadar@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

It's to be expected during the transition period. Honestly if that's what it takes to get users over here, I say more power to them.

[–] Gigahertz5061@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it depends on how invested you were in that other site initially. I had been there over 11 years and used to doom scroll it about 30-45 minutes a day. It's not been easy, but I have deleted my content and my account and have completely committed myself to the fediverse and the content on here. I haven't been back to the other site in a few days, hopefully never will but we are all different. Ite been really refreshing to have actual discussion on here as well; been thoroughly enjoying myself.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Your content may return. Reddit owns it and has been restoring it in some cases.

Meanwhile, you can delete from your kbin / Lemmy, but the others might cache it for eternity.

[–] driver_pro@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I think many of us are coming from Reddit due to the actions of that one guy in charge, so it makes sense that there would be an increase of Reddit discussions. I do think that it would be great if we could eventually just forget they ever existed 😁

[–] RavenSek@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

It has been nice and have more free time… but I also do enjoy reading the dirt on what’s going on ngl.

[–] administrator@lemmy.pro 0 points 2 years ago

Yes please!

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

TF is Readit?

[–] Alter_Id@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just think of it as an opportunity to watch something burn in the rearview mirror.

[–] Bubkis@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Kinda feels like someone going on and on about their ex while on a date with a new person

[–] Mintyytea@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I don’t mind it and it’s helping me who’s trying to transition off reddit feel more at home

[–] June7th@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

There are a couple reddit focused communities that I am following but my goal is eventually to just focus on these new spaces and less on reddit. I think it will take some time, and the amount of time will differ from person to person.

[–] ddnomad@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Talking about Reddit is like thinking about your ex right after the break up. It sucks and oddly satisfying at the same time, and it will pass 😅

[–] loops@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Similarly, I almost liken it to getting out of an abusive relationship. Not exactly of course because it's just a website, but similar.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I joined Reddit in the middle of an abusive relationship. I don't even need "almost" as a qualifier.

"Look at all these nice things I'll give you for the low, low price of making you feel like you can't function without me through a series of increasingly hostile and degrading actions while making you believe that this is the best you'll ever find."

[–] niktemadur@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A domineering ex who kept moving the goalposts while gaslighting you.
But the sex was usually fantastic, and it kept you hooked.

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[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

The two biggest topics I keep seeing are questions on how a redditor can transition to this different format, and how reddit keeps setting fire to itself as it pretends everything is fine. I see no reason to stop talking about either. We can't pretend Reddit never existed and how its content that we provided is important to the internet. I'm all about moving on to the next adventure and trying to do it better, but we do have to remember examples of the past that both did and didn't do things well.

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